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Old 05-12-2008, 02:23 PM
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LauraC,

You should work for the Chamber of Commerce! Now I want to move to Tennessee . . . if only I could decide which part, and if only I could find an affordable place to live . . .

I LOVE your bird photos. You didn't tell us you were a superb photographer!

I can remember a time when I could see the difference between a sparrow and a house wren, but it has been a while. I think you have inspired me to start paying more attention to the birds again.

It was such a pleasure to read your post, and to learn so much about a state I have previously known little about. I gave you a rep!

Now, if all you good folks could just sort out for me the differences among the various parts of Tennessee . . . then I'm ready to move!
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LauraC,

I can remember a time when I could see the difference between a sparrow and a house wren, but it has been a while. I think you have inspired me to start paying more attention to the birds again.
I have 2 books. One is called "Compact Guide to Tennessee Birds" and the other is called "Birds of Tennessee: Field Guide" that helps me identify them.

But, I also recently purchased and downloaded a game I love called "Snapshot Adventures: Secret of Bird Island" from Yahoo Games. Using your mouse, and camera equipment in the game, you get to "photograph" birds in different parts of the US (in the woods, in parks, on the beach, etc.) in flying and standing/swimming mode. Before you play the round in each location, if you click on the birds native to that location, you can find out information about each bird and listen to it's call/song. You rack up points based on the quality of your shots of birds perched and flying using "equipment" (i.e., flash, birdfeed, zoom lens, etc.) you select for each assignment as a bird photographer. You also have an opportunity to create your own bird which they put on the fictional Bird Island and photograph that along with others' bird creations. It's a lot of fun and if you re-do the rounds enough, you really learn the US birds.
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:33 AM
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LauraC, finally an internet game where you get to "shoot" something without any physical damage.

It sounds like a great learning tool while having some fun. I'm going to check it out.
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Been in Tennessee a year (as of 5/15) and these are my observations. Transplants, do you share these observations?

1. Time to take the shovel out of the trunk of the car. Don’t think I’ll be digging myself out of the snow anywhere in Tennessee. I used my ice scraper once last year and that was the brush end, to brush the snow off my car. (Note: I’m retired. If you are outside at 6:00A or earlier, every morning in the winter, you may have a different take on this.)

2. The summer heat and humidity, on the other hand…good luck with plans for a forum picnic in August.

3. The jewel of Tennessee is the State Park system. Been to 7 so far: Norris Dam, Big Ridge, Frozen Head, Cove Lake, Fall Creek Falls, Ft Loudoun, Cumberland Mountain). They’re all different from each other but in my opinion they are the best things about the state. If you don’t take advantage of them, what can I say?

4. Oak Ridge electric has it all over the places I lived in Maryland and Long Island, New York. Where I used to live in Maryland if someone just sneezed near the wires, we lost power and sometimes it was for days. I’m talking your home, traffic lights and the stores. It was a regular occurrence to toss the food in your refrigerator/freezer. Once I was worried I’d freeze to death, the power was out for so long in the winter and that was because something blew up, not because of a vehicle accident or frozen tree branches. After a hurricane, my area in MD was out for four days…and I didn’t live anywhere near the water. I had the electric company emergency number on my cell phone contact list. On Long Island, NY, we lost power a lot, too, but there the issue was also frequent power surges and brown outs and worrying about your electric appliances. Now here in Oak Ridge there are all of these trees, a ton of overhead wires, a lot more traffic accidents and yet power outages are infrequent, haven’t heard/seen a power surge and when the power goes out, it comes back on fairly quickly. Plus, it’s cheaper here. Transplants, is this your experience in your TN town?

5. Food is not cheaper here than the place I left. Maybe the food tax is throwing me. Comments from other transplants? Also, I expected more produce here and local farm stands. Didn’t have them in MD, just expected them here.

6. The birds are fat here (and so am I ). I never saw such fat birds in my life – the ducks are huge, the geese are huge, the songbirds (even the little ones) have huge bellies. I’m thinking if it rains here more frequently than other places, then worms come up more, so the birds eat more frequently. Anyone have any other ideas about this?

7. I don’t see any difference in Tennessee drivers and Long Island or Maryland drivers except they don’t honk here. Tennessee drivers tailgate just like everyplace else, they drive in the rain/fog without their lights on just like everyplace else, they speed just like everyplace else and they don’t use their directional signals just like everyplace else. Of course, those could be transplants from rude states bringing their bad driving manners with them… What I do hear about more are uninsured/unlicensed/drunk drivers on the road. Now do I just hear about it more here because my local papers in the other two places wouldn’t report drunk driving/unlicensed/uninsured driver stops unless a fatal accident was involved? I don’t know. My car insurance (same company, same car) is cheaper here so that has to mean something.

8. Strangers are definitely friendlier here. In my town, I have got to have the nicest postal clerks, the cheery supermarket clerks always talk to you and you get chatted up on store lines and in the doctor’s waiting room. My supermarket people offer to go with me to my car when I have a lot of groceries. But let me tell you a story. When I bought my MD leased car in Tennessee, I couldn’t get the old license plate off where I register the car (in my TN town). In the parking lot of the county clerk’s office, a TV cable guy got out his tools and tried to help me get the plate off, a clerk (who is not with the motor vehicle people) came out and tried to help me get the plate off, my apartment complex maintenance man tried to help me get the old plate off, all to no avail (stripped and it looked like the back of the car would have to be dismantled). I called the Harriman car dealer (remember they didn’t sell or lease me the car) who told me to come right in, took the car into the shop as soon as I got there, got the old plate off, put the new plate on and didn’t charge me. Now anyplace where I lived before, no one (state employee or stranger) would have attempted to help me in the parking lot, I don’t even know what the MD maintenance guy looked like in the apartment complex I lived in for 12 years and I would have had to make an appointment at the car dealer. And get this, when I took my car in for an oil change, I had the wiper blades replaced. It rained the next day. The woman in the car dealer’s office called me to ask how the new wiper blades were working out for me.

9. I love my Tennessee doctor. He is the nicest and most thorough doctor I have ever had. He spends time TALKING to you. He looks like he’s 15 but, hey --- and he’s a local who got his degrees in East Tennessee. You know you always hear these stories about these Florida people who fly back north to go to the doctor. Well, I wouldn’t trade my Tennessee internist for all of the others I’ve had put together. I don’t know if I just got lucky or what since I didn’t get him by recommendation. Interestingly, his assistant is from Maryland. What are your TN doctor experiences?

10. Food: Gondolier cakes (carrot cake and red velvet cake). Buddy’s Barbecue potato salad. Big Ed’s pizza – take out. Now I have to tell you the Gondolier cakes come from Georgia BUT if you ever eat in Gondolier (it’s a chain, make sure you have a slice of one of the two cakes for dessert, even if you get take out.) Like the Maryland suburbs, no bakeries except what’s in the supermarket. I had my first corn dog in TN this past year.

11. High School kids still work in fast food restaurants here. I salute them unlike the apparently spoiled kids in my old Maryland neighborhood who don’t work at all after school.

12. College sports here are held in higher esteem than pro sports. Not so in the two former places I lived where it was reversed.

13. There are more pickup trucks here. I know, DUH, but why? Any theories? There were way more SUVs in Maryland than sedans. I see more sedans than SUVs here. I’ve been away from Long Island too long (12 years) to know what’s happening there, now.

14. Polite: I’ve mentioned this before…generally speaking, male natives hold the door open for you before they walk through it. I say “thank you.” They say “yes ma’m.” It makes my day. In MD, if they don’t let the door shut without regard to you coming through behind them, then they hold the door only after they go through it. Poop on them!

15. The churches here open their doors for non-religious uses of their facilities. My retiree book club meets in a Lutheran church meeting room. The Community Band has its annual Christmas concert in a Baptist Church. My Camera Club is meeting next week in a Unitarian Church because we can’t meet in our regular place. I don’t ever remember the churches on Long Island or in Maryland opening their facilities for public meetings. Although I’m not religious I feel the churches here are a bigger part of the community and I like it.

16. There sure are a lot of dams here. High dams, low dams, big dams, little dams. I’ve seen more dams in a year than I have the entire rest of my life.

17. There are more flowers here. Bradford Pear trees are the bomb – pretty in Spring and Fall.

18. Deer sightings are so common as to be ho-hum. If only those people who go to Cades Cove to see deer would realize, they’re all over Tennessee…try any State park.

19. I actually know what my TN Congressman looks like and what he does. I can pick him out in a crowd photo. He comes to my town a lot. Couldn’t pick my former MD Congressman out of a photo of three people.

20. Haven’t met or seen or read about any showoffs since I’ve been here. Material possessions, the way you dress, the size of your house, the car you drive, who you know, doesn’t seem to matter/impress people. I am not conscious of who is wealthy and who isn’t by looking at people or their cars. No one is flashy (makeup, jewelry, fancy clothes). Wealthy people don’t get any attention at all in the two local newspapers…and I like that. Not true for my former MD and LI, NY locations where impressing people with possessions and looks was a sport. Here you get attention for accomplishment…and, you know, if you get arrested. Is that true in your TN town?
You sound like you really like it there, and it sounds very nice. Im glad for you. I have heard other people that moved there say the food is higher, it must have alot to do with the food tax in grocery stores there. My big concern is because I hate cigarette smoke, and its a major requirement for my retirement choice. Is it true one can go to a restaurant in Tenn and they are all non smoking now?
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You sound like you really like it there, and it sounds very nice. Im glad for you. I have heard other people that moved there say the food is higher, it must have alot to do with the food tax in grocery stores there. My big concern is because I hate cigarette smoke, and its a major requirement for my retirement choice. Is it true one can go to a restaurant in Tenn and they are all non smoking now?
Yes, it is true. I think as of October 1 of last year, the law went into effect, Tn. is a non smoking state in establishments.
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Laura - We've been making plans for a move to Tennessee for about a year now. We noticed so much of what your comments stated. We, too, were especially impressed with the fact that there aren't many "show-offs". This made a huge impact on us, having spent the last 10 years in southern California where "ostentatious" the way of life. Also loved the fact that radio news covered worthwhile issues instead of what Hollywood people were up to. Loved the focus on family and religion.
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Laura - We've been making plans for a move to Tennessee for about a year now. We noticed so much of what your comments stated. We, too, were especially impressed with the fact that there aren't many "show-offs". This made a huge impact on us, having spent the last 10 years in southern California where "ostentatious" the way of life. Also loved the fact that radio news covered worthwhile issues instead of what Hollywood people were up to. Loved the focus on family and religion.
The lack of appearance showoffs was very noticeable to me. It could be that I just don't travel in the right circles but I have to say that when I first arrived and attended some town events I noticed everyone was casually dressed, no one had on gobs of make-up (most had none) and I didn't see people loaded down with jewelry. I didn't see any jeweled fingernails/toenails. I also noticed that among my fellow retirees in my classes, the older female folks (20 years or more older than me) didn't have a lot of sprayed hairdos but more "wash and wear" haircuts. I noticed outside of one of my offsite retiree classes, that everyone drives a midsize sedan. Now, I didn't expect older women to drive big trucks but no SUVs --- that was unusual. I went on a trip to the Oak Ridge National Laboratory (several buildings), ate in the cafeteria and observed that everyone I saw was casually dressed and not casually dressed, designer clothes casually dressed, either. I can tell you that I live in clothes you can buy in Wal-Mart and throw in the washing machine. But, I'm not sure if it's just my town or the people I'm most likely to come in contact with because I'm a nerd. I can tell you that the 2 local newspapers don't report on "society" affairs/happenings and associated people, they heavily report on people/kid accomplishment, crime, events and town business. Event photos in the two local papers show a lot of regular folks (of all ages) having a good time. I've been here a year and have no idea who is wealthy. It's just not in your face because apparently the rich people don't show off and the people who aren't but just like to showoff, materially, don't get any attention here. Again. I don't know if my town is unique in that regard or it's the same throughout the state.

I like listening to talk radio in the car. On the weekend, those shows give way to specialty shows. I was in my car for stretches of time this past weekend. One show was people calling in about how they use their Bobcat equipment/attachments for some projects. I don't even own a house and I was fascinated. The other show was a call in show of people selling and wanting to buy or swap all kinds of used items. In my former area in MD, the weekend talk radio shows were all about investing.

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I love those swap and shop radio call in shows! The best is WGRV in Greeneville. I've found a few good things that way.
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I really enjoyed reading that. I am even more excited about moving to TN now. I will be moving to the Church Hill area in June. After numerous trips to different parts of TN I have only had one bad experience. Recently, while visiting in Johnson City, my husband and I stayed at a hotel next to a so called "FAMILY RESTARAUNT". At night this place became a night club or something b/c a group or young couple continued to set off their car alarm at 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning. They were hollaring and carrying on outside where we were parked, which by the way was in the hotel parking lot. The next morning I had two "DEEP" dings on both sides of my car. I was not happy at all. Other than that I love TN and after 12 years of convincing my husband to move there we are finally making that dream come true. I would like to thank everyone for the great advice and much needed information to make this move a grand one.
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Ha, you must've been somewhere near downtown Johnson City. Do you remember the hotel name?
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