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07-12-2008, 12:33 PM
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Chance favors the prepared mind.
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Originally Posted by Mike in TN
Maybe I don't quite understand how they establish MSAs.
Macon and Cannon counties are a long way from Nashville and no one that lives there is going to drive to Nashville to work.
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That's true. However, they might drive to somewhere else in the MSA for work such as Murfreesboro or Lebanon.
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04-01-2009, 06:57 AM
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memphis is 18th---perhaps 16th; reported to be basically same as population count as one of the texsas cities, san antonio or austin, i believe.
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04-01-2009, 07:28 AM
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yes, you figured part of it out. the poster, who gives the information, fails to note that the numbers were manipulated in order to produce a more favorable impression on the three cities listed in the CSA. true metro areas (MEMPHIS METRO) SHELBY COUNTY ALONE: 900,000+, take in the border to border counties: they do not identify an entire region, as nashville attempts to do. metro nashville---since the late 50's and early 60's---has attempted to seed its stats. nashville began to lose population due to outmigration in the above time-frame. the powers that were at the time, were sorely distressed. SHELBY COUNTY was continuing its steady growth, nashville was not. it was decided that it was in nashville's best interest to form a metro government, which would take in the davidison county population and combine the nashville population. in so doing, nashville no longer would have to stand alone on its much smaller population, in a county that is about 1/3 smaller than SHELBY county. the poster should realize that he makes himself appear to be foolish by failing to consider statistical analysis, application of Coe's, and comparison of land mass pop density. raw data simply shows that SHELBY COUNTY consistenly holds + <> 300,000 individuals over davidison county. before long, we expect to see nashville as MEMPHIS' extreme eastern suburb. by the was, a saying that has been around since the early 40's, according to my grandfather. stop be silly and ridiculous.
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04-01-2009, 11:28 AM
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Armchair Activist!
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? Well of course Memphis is much larger than Nashville.
But the only reason that Nashville might become Memphis' eastern suburb is because people are fleeing Shelby County like it was 14th St Manhattan in 1978. If people continue to move eastward, to the burbs and even to Jackson, etc., then, yeah, I guess Nashville will eventually be Memphis' eastern burb, too!
(Said quite tongue in cheek, of course. I would imagine Memphis is growing most around Olive Branch.)
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04-02-2009, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kingchef
yes, you figured part of it out. the poster, who gives the information, fails to note that the numbers were manipulated in order to produce a more favorable impression on the three cities listed in the CSA. true metro areas (MEMPHIS METRO) SHELBY COUNTY ALONE: 900,000+, take in the border to border counties: they do not identify an entire region, as nashville attempts to do. metro nashville---since the late 50's and early 60's---has attempted to seed its stats. nashville began to lose population due to outmigration in the above time-frame. the powers that were at the time, were sorely distressed. SHELBY COUNTY was continuing its steady growth, nashville was not. it was decided that it was in nashville's best interest to form a metro government, which would take in the davidison county population and combine the nashville population. in so doing, nashville no longer would have to stand alone on its much smaller population, in a county that is about 1/3 smaller than SHELBY county. the poster should realize that he makes himself appear to be foolish by failing to consider statistical analysis, application of Coe's, and comparison of land mass pop density. raw data simply shows that SHELBY COUNTY consistenly holds + <> 300,000 individuals over davidison county. before long, we expect to see nashville as MEMPHIS' extreme eastern suburb. by the was, a saying that has been around since the early 40's, according to my grandfather. stop be silly and ridiculous.
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I'm not sure what to make of this post and your "true metro" talk. None of this makes much sense and I'm not sure what you're trying to dispute here.
Memphis is the biggest city in TN with its older, denser core. No one disputes this fact. Nashville is the largest metro in TN. This is another fact that cannot be disputed. What you seem to be conveniently glossing over is the fact that Nashville's ring counties such as Rutherford, Williamson and Sumner have their own substantial satelitte cities such as Murfreesboro, Franklin and Hendersonville which essentially have their own surrounding towns. All these places are growing quite fast. Murfreesboro alone is approximately double the size of any satellite city in Memphis and many of the top 25 cities in TN are actually Nashville suburbs.
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04-02-2009, 04:52 PM
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Memphis' refusal to combine city/county. How's that working out for you?
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04-03-2009, 09:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kingchef
yes, you figured part of it out. the poster, who gives the information, fails to note that the numbers were manipulated in order to produce a more favorable impression on the three cities listed in the CSA. true metro areas (MEMPHIS METRO) SHELBY COUNTY ALONE: 900,000+, take in the border to border counties: they do not identify an entire region, as nashville attempts to do. metro nashville---since the late 50's and early 60's---has attempted to seed its stats. nashville began to lose population due to outmigration in the above time-frame. the powers that were at the time, were sorely distressed. SHELBY COUNTY was continuing its steady growth, nashville was not. it was decided that it was in nashville's best interest to form a metro government, which would take in the davidison county population and combine the nashville population. in so doing, nashville no longer would have to stand alone on its much smaller population, in a county that is about 1/3 smaller than SHELBY county. the poster should realize that he makes himself appear to be foolish by failing to consider statistical analysis, application of Coe's, and comparison of land mass pop density. raw data simply shows that SHELBY COUNTY consistenly holds + <> 300,000 individuals over davidison county. before long, we expect to see nashville as MEMPHIS' extreme eastern suburb. by the was, a saying that has been around since the early 40's, according to my grandfather. stop be silly and ridiculous.
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Um, no.
Nashville has not "attempted" to do anything. The Census Bureau determines the boundaries of an MSA based primarily on commuting and economic patterns.
And the poster simply posted facts furnished by the Census Bureau. He did not make himself look "foolish" by doing so. Geez. What's wrong with some of you people?
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04-05-2009, 05:51 PM
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I noticed that more than a third of the 20 largest towns are Nashville satellites. And Jogabitlu is correct in that nearly all Memphis-area growth is in Mississippi.
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