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Unread 06-17-2009, 10:06 PM
Status: "Summer is here!" (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: Deane Hill, Knoxville, Tennessee
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As far as the status of our processing plant in Knoxville; we are overstaffed on clerks but short on mailhandlers.
Tell me about it. They say I'm on the longest route in Knoxville. The guy literally tosses my mail. I found my husband's replacement debit card in the street.

I'm 47 and never had a bit of trouble with USPS. This guy has to be overworked.
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Unread 06-18-2009, 06:38 AM
 
Location: for now Cleveland Ohio
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Joe,
I definitely understand the position you are in with the USPS. I, myself, work for the Postal Service as a clerk in the Knoxville P&DC (processing) plant. Our mail volume is down big time this year, and they have been moving people around and taking out several machines. So far we have not had clerks excessed, but I feel it is coming. (there were plans to move clerks to mail handler positions, but that is on hold now too). In the past year, they've eliminated all casual clerks in the plant though, and also eliminated almost all Tour 2 (dayshift) jobs.

Anyway, I'm also definitely uneasy about the future of the USPS (especially since they are now saying that they can excess people up to 750 miles). I have a little over 12 years in (10 at my current location), and am hoping that's enough for me to avoid the excessing. But the bad part is that even if that is the case, I'm sure I'll end up with a worse shift and worse days off.

As far as the status of our processing plant in Knoxville; we are overstaffed on clerks but short on mailhandlers. I know Memphis just recently excessed clerks and we got about 10 or 15 at our plant in Knoxville. But they transferred to mailhandler jobs instead of clerks. I'm guessing most excessed employees will be offered jobs as either mailhandlers or carriers. I think the clerk craft is pretty much over.

On a sidenote, do you know of any areas that actually need people, or areas that people might be excessed to? It would be interesting to know what cities and areas need people (instead of needing to get rid of employees). It might help in planning in case the worst does happen.

Anyway, good luck and I hope things work out for you and you are not excessed. If you need any info on Knoxville or East Tennessee, just let me know.
I am 1 of 214 clerks that are being excessed from the Cleveland P&DC. I have 11 years in as a clerk and I will become either a mailhandler ora c arrier. I do know that we are up to 500 miles and that in the next week we are suppose to get bid packets, because by Aug 1 we should be gone from there.

I also know that in Oct., the PO is closing a Plant in IN. and those clerks are going a 1000 miles from home.

Right now, I am on a detail as a 204 B and was told that wasn't going to save me from being excessed. This whole process doesn't bother me to much, because I will still have a job, its justthe idea of moving someplace that I will know noone and living someplace new, that bothers me.

I think the PO is hoping that alot of the people involved will quit instead of moving. This way they can keeps us here, but in todays economy, I don't see that happening.

I don't even know if TN will be on the bid packet, I am only hoping so, because I want to goo someplace warm in the winter if I have to carrier mail.

I thought 11 years would be enough, but it wasn't, I hope that 12 is enough for you. Like I said before, I dont really care to much about the moving part, although the powers to be seem real slow in answering questions about,my thing is the timng of it, and the last minute BS of it.

We are suppose to be gone by Aug 1st and I still havent gotten an answer as to where I could be going (anywhere in a 500 mile radius from Cleveland Oh), how am I to pay for this, when will I get my money back from the PO. How long after I get a bid, before I have to report to my new station, and how and where do I stay until I find my own place?

I was told that any question I might have will be in a packet that is to be mailed to me soon. And if I still had question, there would be a name and number to call for more answers.

If push comes to shove, I guess I could always go East and stay with my sister in Chicago (happy happy joy joy), but I am trying to avoid that at all cost!!!!

Well thats all for now, got to get ready for work. Thank you so much for heads up, and hope we can still talk on here and if I do move down there, hopefully we can meet.

Joe
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Unread 06-18-2009, 06:50 AM
 
Location: for now Cleveland Ohio
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Tell me about it. They say I'm on the longest route in Knoxville. The guy literally tosses my mail. I found my husband's replacement debit card in the street.

I'm 47 and never had a bit of trouble with USPS. This guy has to be overworked.
It sounds to me like you have a new carrier, if s/he is tossing your mail. Or a carrier that doesn't care anymore.

A mailhandler works on the docks unloading the trucks that come in from the stations, and processes the mail to be worked on the machines.

A clerk runs the machines in the plant or a clerk works the windows at the small PO's in town. They also sort the mail be hand at these stations.

A mail carrier, for the stations, is the backbone of the PO. They are the one's that work in all types of weather, dealing with dogs, customers, bees, and such everyday, plus dealing with co workers that call off or are on vacation, and have to do they route and they coworkers route also.

Plus they have to deal with mangement in the office and on the street if they show up there.

Just remember, be kind to your carriers, offer them a glass of water in the hot days of summer, don't be to pissed off if your mail comes late, it maybe they are doing part of another route first. They are human also and can make mistakes at times, and when they find out about, most fell badly and try to correct the next time.
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Unread 06-18-2009, 08:46 AM
Status: "Summer is here!" (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: Deane Hill, Knoxville, Tennessee
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It sounds to me like you have a new carrier, if s/he is tossing your mail. Or a carrier that doesn't care anymore.

A mailhandler works on the docks unloading the trucks that come in from the stations, and processes the mail to be worked on the machines.

A clerk runs the machines in the plant or a clerk works the windows at the small PO's in town. They also sort the mail be hand at these stations.

A mail carrier, for the stations, is the backbone of the PO. They are the one's that work in all types of weather, dealing with dogs, customers, bees, and such everyday, plus dealing with co workers that call off or are on vacation, and have to do they route and they coworkers route also.

Plus they have to deal with mangement in the office and on the street if they show up there.

Just remember, be kind to your carriers, offer them a glass of water in the hot days of summer, don't be to pissed off if your mail comes late, it maybe they are doing part of another route first. They are human also and can make mistakes at times, and when they find out about, most fell badly and try to correct the next time.
Thanks for letting me know. I have no idea how the USPS works, obviously!

I've worked with the public for many years, and I try to be very nice to any worker I see. I've made friends with many carriers over the years, and I would love to say "hi" to this guy, and certainly offer him something to drink. Darn it all if I can't catch him, and I mean, I am standing on my front lawn and he barely stops the truck to put the mail in!

You'd have to see it to believe it!

He's old and his no interest in talking to me. I think you are right and he just doesn't care. He drives with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth. I'm a smoker, so that doesn't bother me.

Anyway, I should have reported him, because I happened to just be standing there and saw it fall. What if I wasn't home? It was a DEBIT CARD. So, yes, obviously I am very nice or I would have done something about it. Oh, and I have never complained about the mail being late. Not in 47 years. I've never complained about anything! This thread is the first time.

Like I said, someone that filled in for him said that he has the longest route in the city. She, obviously, had taken the time to actually talk to me. I think it was about 6 p.m. on a Saturday, though! See, it IS a long route.
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Unread 06-20-2009, 08:30 AM
 
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My husband will be retiring from the PO September 1st, he's got 35 years in, counting his military.
For the last 15 years he's been a Window Clerk. They don't plan on putting his job up for bid. This past year, they haven't replaced any of the retiring clerks putting more stress on the ones that are left.

Two years ago, he was up for a transfer to Tennessee, but we decided not to at that time. We found out later that they had cut those transfer jobs, so it was a good thing we didn't transfer at that time.

Now, he's got his 30 years in. He's only 55, but so very tired of the stress and restrictions placed on Window Clerks.

They did offer him an early out with no incentives, so he decided to wait it out until his birthday, which was in April.

He's a lot happier now knowing that his retirement date is fast approaching.




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I am 1 of 214 clerks that are being excessed from the Cleveland P&DC. I have 11 years in as a clerk and I will become either a mailhandler ora c arrier. I do know that we are up to 500 miles and that in the next week we are suppose to get bid packets, because by Aug 1 we should be gone from there.

I also know that in Oct., the PO is closing a Plant in IN. and those clerks are going a 1000 miles from home.

Right now, I am on a detail as a 204 B and was told that wasn't going to save me from being excessed. This whole process doesn't bother me to much, because I will still have a job, its justthe idea of moving someplace that I will know noone and living someplace new, that bothers me.

I think the PO is hoping that alot of the people involved will quit instead of moving. This way they can keeps us here, but in todays economy, I don't see that happening.

I don't even know if TN will be on the bid packet, I am only hoping so, because I want to goo someplace warm in the winter if I have to carrier mail.

I thought 11 years would be enough, but it wasn't, I hope that 12 is enough for you. Like I said before, I dont really care to much about the moving part, although the powers to be seem real slow in answering questions about,my thing is the timng of it, and the last minute BS of it.

We are suppose to be gone by Aug 1st and I still havent gotten an answer as to where I could be going (anywhere in a 500 mile radius from Cleveland Oh), how am I to pay for this, when will I get my money back from the PO. How long after I get a bid, before I have to report to my new station, and how and where do I stay until I find my own place?

I was told that any question I might have will be in a packet that is to be mailed to me soon. And if I still had question, there would be a name and number to call for more answers.

If push comes to shove, I guess I could always go East and stay with my sister in Chicago (happy happy joy joy), but I am trying to avoid that at all cost!!!!

Well thats all for now, got to get ready for work. Thank you so much for heads up, and hope we can still talk on here and if I do move down there, hopefully we can meet.

Joe
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Unread 06-21-2009, 09:40 AM
 
Location: for now Cleveland Ohio
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My husband will be retiring from the PO September 1st, he's got 35 years in, counting his military.
For the last 15 years he's been a Window Clerk. They don't plan on putting his job up for bid. This past year, they haven't replaced any of the retiring clerks putting more stress on the ones that are left.

Two years ago, he was up for a transfer to Tennessee, but we decided not to at that time. We found out later that they had cut those transfer jobs, so it was a good thing we didn't transfer at that time.

Now, he's got his 30 years in. He's only 55, but so very tired of the stress and restrictions placed on Window Clerks.

They did offer him an early out with no incentives, so he decided to wait it out until his birthday, which was in April.

He's a lot happier now knowing that his retirement date is fast approaching.

Congradulations!! I am sorry to hear that your husband has been so miserable the past few years at the PO. But I can relate. I have been a window clerk off and on for the past eights years, and I feel the pressure that is put on us. We have to "educate" the customers on our products. Like they don't know how to send something!

Anyhow, you said they were going to transfer your husband, but he was able to get out of it? How did he do that? Its not that I dont want to try something new, its just the way the PO is handling it that sucks.

We are told that we are being "excessed" 500 miles from Cleveland, but no one knows where. I was told east to the ocean, west to IL, and south to the Carolinas. But when I asked questions, I was told an "information" packet would be mailed out soon, and it should answer all my questions.

I tried to ask the gentleman, assigned to this CF, some questions, and he basically blew me off. Telling me that at the meetings they have held about it, has turned into screaming matches, and point the finger of blame to other people.

I am suppose to be gone by Aug 1st, and here I sit on the 21st of June, waiting, wondering.

Then I was told the PO would pay too move me, now I am being told, I have to move myself then I would get my money back. Well guess what, I don't have that kind of money!! I am a family man, living from paycheck to paycheck. So you tell me how am I suppose to move myself from here to somewhere else, plus help my family move to a differnt place, because they are staying behind.

And get this, I have 30 days after I get to whereever, to find a house, because thats all the PO will cover. Now you tell me, where can a person find a temperary "shelter", for 30 days, and then move again?

Most places wants references, well I wont know anyone from whereever I go and who in the right mind would take a letter from out of state? SO you see the problems this is causing me and all involved. I hear most of the people located at the plant, are numb and don'tbelieve this will happen, but guess what it has early this year and it will happen again so.

Well I just hope TN is on the list, because just from here, I can tell its a friendly state and a place I want to move too.
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Unread 06-21-2009, 12:33 PM
 
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No, we weren't told that they were transferring us, we chose to transfer to Tennessee. My dad lives there, and I have a lot of relatives all over the state.

My husband put bids in for 5 different offices. We then drove down and checked each office out.
We decided at the time, it would be more worth it to just wait until he reached his 55th birthday and could retire.

We've been planning on moving to Tennessee for the last five years.
We've been down twice checking different areas.
I have a friend in the town that we will be moving to.
We also have a local Pastor looking for a place for us to rent.

It's not that my husband hates his job. He's just tired.
He's been standing at a window for about 15 years now, and he's ready to do something different.

We ended up in Minnesota by swapping jobs with a guy, who went to Idaho.
My husband wanted to be closer to his parents.

We didn't realize that the cost of living was so much higher in Minnesota.
We also live paycheck to paycheck.









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Anyhow, you said they were going to transfer your husband, but he was able to get out of it? How did he do that? Its not that I dont want to try something new, its just the way the PO is handling it that sucks.


Well I just hope TN is on the list, because just from here, I can tell its a friendly state and a place I want to move too.
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Unread 06-21-2009, 01:22 PM
Status: "Summer is here!" (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: Deane Hill, Knoxville, Tennessee
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The Knoxville post office has some of the nicest people working at the window. The are really patient about telling people how to send a package and it is much appreciated.
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Unread 06-22-2009, 08:35 AM
 
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My husband is the one that the elderly ladies go to.
He will take the time to help them wrap their packages, and he doesn't try to hurry them along.
Some of them have stopped me and told me what a nice man he is.
I can't really take him anywhere without someone knowing who he is.

Sometimes, people will walk up to him and ask him where they know him from and he'll tell them the post office.

I was teasing him the other day and told him that someday he'd be that elderly guy standing at the door of Walmart saying, "Hi welcome to Walmart."



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The Knoxville post office has some of the nicest people working at the window. The are really patient about telling people how to send a package and it is much appreciated.
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Unread 06-22-2009, 07:23 PM
 
Location: for now Cleveland Ohio
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I can relate to your husband and being "noticed" in public. I worked the window for like 6 years, and everytime the wife and I were at a store, some customer would come up to me and strike up a conversation, like we were old buddies. Sometimes the wife, would get bored and walk away while I was talking "shop".

At first it was cool, but after awhile I stopped going to the stores, because it was interupting my family time. But its all good.

It made me feel good, knowing that I was able to help people. I too had certain customers, that would wait in line for me, when another coworker wasn't busy. I always got teased for it, but I would just tell my co workers, dont be jealous becasue I am that good. LOL!!

So it sounds like Knoxville is a nice town, and I guess if there is a job opening there, I will try and pick it. I have been on Craigs List looking at houses to rent, and I can't belive the prices. So much cheaper then Ohio for what seems like nicer homes!!

Maybe I will find out soon about the transfer so I can start to answer some of these ads.

Well thats all for now.
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