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Old 04-24-2007, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Steilacoom, WA by way of East Tennessee
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Howdy all,

I'm on the last day of my E. TN/WNC job search/interview trip, I've had a pretty successful trip, several interviews, impressed many folks, etc.

In TN though, not so much luck. I could only find one position that I was a perfect fit for qualification wise and that paid enough. I was refered to one job for a branch manager position in Johnson City, but once the owner found out that I am a military retiree, I was not allowed to interview for the position.....his reason.....I was ex-military and therefore not a good fit for his organization, he stated that I wouldn't be laid back enough. Is this a common problem in TN?? I assumed that the area would be pro-military, but to be rejected for a position that I was otherwise highly qualified for, just because of my previous employer.......what a kick in the pants.

Anyway, there are worse things in life, I have several job offers from this trip, but just none of them in TN.

Have fun boys and girls.

Tony (going home tomorrow)
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Old 04-24-2007, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I'm sorry you were rejected for that reason alone. That seems harsh and unfair (and possibly illegal).

Tennessee is actually pro-military for the most part. Those who serve are respected for their sacrifice by most people. I've never actually known someone to be rejected just because they're ex-military. I grew up in Clarksville, near Ft. Campbell.

However, I can say that working with a career army guy can be a bit of a challenge (I work with one now). There's an old saying: There's the right way, the wrong way, and the army way. Some of these 20+ year guys take that to heart. Anything and everything has to somehow relate somehow back to their army experience. It can get a bit . . . tiresome. ;-)

Good luck to you with whatever you find, whether in Tennessee or elsewhere.
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Steilacoom, WA by way of East Tennessee
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Thanks for the reply,

No, nothing illegal, I'm a white male, there was nothing illegal, just his choice, and he has that right, I can't really complain, though it does torque me to no end. I could see if after an interview I was deemed unfit, but to be rejected because of an anti-military bias..........pure crap.

On a positive note, Johnson City seemed like a nice enough town and the country side was gorgeous, seems like a great place to live......if I could only find a job there

Tony
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I wasn't sure about the illegal part. I know there are some laws about rehiring someone who has been in the service, and about letting people in the Guard off to serve their time in the summer.

I agree, a blanket rejection of all ex-military people is a poor way to do business. I'm betting he doesn't tell his clients or customers that he feels that way.
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Steilacoom, WA by way of East Tennessee
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I wasn't sure about the illegal part. I know there are some laws about rehiring someone who has been in the service, and about letting people in the Guard off to serve their time in the summer.

I agree, a blanket rejection of all ex-military people is a poor way to do business. I'm betting he doesn't tell his clients or customers that he feels that way.
You are correct on the national guard thing and for some military people who get out, but it's with regard to the reemployment right, your old job is supposed to take you back if you leave to go serve your country, that's the law, but it's also ignored on a regular basis by many employers. In my case it doesn't apply, I've never worked here.

I'd love to find a pro military company or heck, just a company that would let me at least try and show them the qualifications that I've acquired over 20 years without slamming the door shut due to a bias.

Maybe I need to look in Knoxville instead of Johnson City, is it easier in Knoxville to find work?

Tony
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I'm pretty sure it would be easier in Knoxville, but I'm not that familiar with employment there. A couple of other people here on this forum are. They will probably find this thread.

Any interest in Middle Tennessee? Employment opportunities are pretty good in Nashville and surrounding counties.
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:03 AM
 
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You are correct on the national guard thing and for some military people who get out, but it's with regard to the reemployment right, your old job is supposed to take you back if you leave to go serve your country, that's the law, but it's also ignored on a regular basis by many employers. In my case it doesn't apply, I've never worked here.

I'd love to find a pro military company or heck, just a company that would let me at least try and show them the qualifications that I've acquired over 20 years without slamming the door shut due to a bias.

Maybe I need to look in Knoxville instead of Johnson City, is it easier in Knoxville to find work?

Tony
It might be easier to find a job in Knoxville just because Knoxville is so much larger than Johnson City. Knoxville doesn't have the small-city charm of JC, but it's still a great place to live.

I am shocked that you were told that you weren't considered for the job because of your military past, but I wouldn't judge the entire state of Tennessee because of that one *******.

And like alleycat said, the Nashville area is booming, and with its proximity to Fort Campbell I seriously doubt there would be any anti-military bias in hiring new employees.
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:16 PM
 
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Hey Tony,
Sorry to hear things didn't go as well down there. One thing I wondered was if the real reason was because they see that you're older and are obviously going to be retiring. I know finding work for mature people can be difficult.

From what you told us, it seems that your salary requirements aren't enormous. have you thought of looking into perhaps a semi-managament position? Logistics? Manufacturing? Warehouse management? These are all jobs that might pay you $12-$15 an hour. Just remember- It is still true that partially why TN is cheaper than out West is the fact that salaries are lower.

Anyhow, good luck and start hitting up craigslist!
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Hawaii
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Maybe I need to look in Knoxville instead of Johnson City, is it easier in Knoxville to find work?
I'm sorry you were treated so poorly in Johnson City. Sounds to me like you might not want to work for that guy anyway. And no, it's most certainly isn't a TN attitude toward the military. I think everyone I know has the utmost respect for anyone who has given their time to our country. What kind of work are you looking for? I'm originally from Kingsport, but I live in Knoxville now. I'd love to make a suggestion or help if I can.
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Steilacoom, WA by way of East Tennessee
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Hey Tony,
Sorry to hear things didn't go as well down there. One thing I wondered was if the real reason was because they see that you're older and are obviously going to be retiring. I know finding work for mature people can be difficult.

From what you told us, it seems that your salary requirements aren't enormous. have you thought of looking into perhaps a semi-managament position? Logistics? Manufacturing? Warehouse management? These are all jobs that might pay you $12-$15 an hour. Just remember- It is still true that partially why TN is cheaper than out West is the fact that salaries are lower.

Anyhow, good luck and start hitting up craigslist!
Hi silverbox,

Man I just turned 40, I look 35, I ain't old yet

No, the owner said it was due to my being military, and I can say it's a bias, due to the fact that he would not even take 5 minutes to speak with me.

It's too bad, I would have done an excellent job.

Tony
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