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Old 02-14-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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This time it was just sitting there, not being charged.

Tesla says no car is 100% secure from catching fire but sorry, spontaneous combustion? In car history, other models have been doomed for catching fire after being involved in collisions but somehow, because it is a Tesla, the excuses are gobbled up and swallowed whole.

One can argue that gasoline fueled cars also catch fire but if they cost as much as a Tesla, then something is very wrong.

Next up, on-board fire suppression systems (you have to wonder why Tesla didn't put one in and call it a feature).
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:45 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Ummm....news links?
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:51 AM
 
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Ummm....news links?
All over the news. It is on National broadcast news, Internet news, all you have to do is look.

My goodness, search:

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Old 02-14-2014, 12:02 PM
 
Location: NY/LA
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Supposedly the battery, charging system, electrical receptacle and adapter were all untouched by the fire. So at least it wasn't those components that caused the fire.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Extremely sad, isn't it, Mack Knife?

If, after spending almost as much for a "gaggle of whistles and bells" vehicle that I spent for my home about 20 years ago, my investment "self-destructed" due to an internal fire . . . I would be extremely unhappy.

If this scenario continues, I have a feeling insurance on a Tesla will be either non-existent or super expensive. Either way . . . WHY? Just to be COOL?

Another point to consider . . . how many fires did NOt make the headlines?
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:07 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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This time it was just sitting there, not being charged.

Tesla says no car is 100% secure from catching fire but sorry, spontaneous combustion? In car history, other models have been doomed for catching fire after being involved in collisions but somehow, because it is a Tesla, the excuses are gobbled up and swallowed whole.

One can argue that gasoline fueled cars also catch fire but if they cost as much as a Tesla, then something is very wrong.

Next up, on-board fire suppression systems (you have to wonder why Tesla didn't put one in and call it a feature).
Gasoline vehicles do catch fire without being involved in an accident. It happens all the time. Many of them are also significantly more expensive than the Tesla Model S.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Good. Hate Musk, guy is a bully.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:13 PM
 
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Gasoline vehicles do catch fire without being involved in an accident. It happens all the time. Many of them are also significantly more expensive than the Tesla Model S.
They contain a fuel, the Tesla does not and has been touted by Tesla as being one of the safest cars made. Claims of safety are just something that passes the time until something really bad happens.

I don't recall the manufacturers of those other vehicles bragging as does Tesla.

The percentage of Tesla cars catching fire compared to those others cars is what? There aren't that many Tesla's out on the road.

There are hundreds of millions of gasoline fueled cars in the US alone. There are relatively few thousands of Teslas in comparison, meaning there really isn't a comparison.

Tesla has a problem. It isn't acknowledging it but comes out with excuses very quickly.

Tesla has an opportunity to fix the problem and not all of the problem is with the fires, it is how it reacts to them.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:27 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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They contain a fuel, the Tesla does not and has been touted by Tesla as being one of the safest cars made. Claims of safety are just something that passes the time until something really bad happens.

I don't recall the manufacturers of those other vehicles bragging as does Tesla.

The percentage of Tesla cars catching fire compared to those others cars is what? There aren't that many Tesla's out on the road.

There are hundreds of millions of gasoline fueled cars in the US alone. There are relatively few thousands of Teslas in comparison, meaning there really isn't a comparison.

Tesla has a problem. It isn't acknowledging it but comes out with excuses very quickly.

Tesla has an opportunity to fix the problem and not all of the problem is with the fires, it is how it reacts to them.

I don't like jumping to conclusions. Do we know the cause at this time? Previous fires were related to poor home wiring and a fix was issued (actually a fix to the charging unit, more of a protection against poor in home wiring). Musk generally knows how to run his company and I believe he is doing an outstanding job. All you have to do is look at all of the failed automotive startups to compare (not even relegated to EV's only).Tesla is in an interesting place because it is being attacked from many fronts as everyone from auto manufacturers, oil companies, dealer associations, etc have an interest in Tesla's failure. Unlike many established auto makers, it also strongly depends on proper consumer education because many people don't understand just how good these cars are for their intended purpose. Because of this, Tesla has to be extremely careful in how it's presented in public and how they respond to issues.
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:26 PM
 
Location: The Woodlands
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Hate Musk, guy is a bully.
Any proof of that?
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