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Sure there are plenty that do, and plenty that don't.
If you an American and believe EVs are the future, why wouldn't you want Tesla to succeed? It's an American company that 1) will help U.S. have larger share of automotive market 2) emit less pollutants / help environment 3) Help U.S. and elsewhere moved toward energy independence.
Sure there are plenty that do, and plenty that don't.
If you an American and believe EVs are the future, why wouldn't you want Tesla to succeed? It's an American company that 1) will help U.S. have larger share of automotive market 2) emit less pollutants / help environment 3) Help U.S. and elsewhere moved toward energy independence.
Rooting against that would be odd.
1) Tesla is not a large share of the auto market so the fact it’s American is meaningless
2) emits less pollutants for the well off only while taking a tax break to do so.
3) energy independence switches to cobalt and lithium dependence (2/3rds of the world’s cobalt supply comes from the Congo which uses child labor)
4) it’s run like a dictatorship by a drug addicted egomaniac who’s not playing with a full deck.
5) treats employees like crap.
There’s plenty of bad to go with the good and the good is not a strong enough factor to go on alone.
Look at the latest data on US car sales, and you won't find much in the way of surprises. Ford's F-Series pickups reign supreme. SUVs and other pickups dominate the 20 most popular models in the country, along with cheaper sedans like the Toyota Camry and Honda Civic. Let your eyes fall to the bottom of the list, though, and you'll spot a newcomer: Elon Musk's Tesla Model 3.
Tesla says it delivered 56,065 of the small, electric, expensive sedans between July and October, making the Model 3 the 19th best-selling car in the country for the quarter. Take a closer look at the numbers, and you'll find that the upstart automaker is now moving so many cars, it's having a noticeable (and notable) impact on the broader industry. Fifteen years after its founding, Tesla has left the niche.
CHART: The Tesla Model 3 was in the top 20 of all vehicles sold in the US during the third quarter of 2018.
“We really can’t brush them aside anymore,” says Tim Fleming, an analyst at Kelley Blue Book, which produces a monthly report on vehicle sales by brand, segment, and manufacturer. “Their sales really kicked up with the production of the Model 3.”
That’s particularly apparent when you compare Tesla to similarly priced luxury cars. There, Tesla ranked fourth in sales last quarter, ahead of industry giants Audi, Cadillac, and Porsche, plus a few others.
CHART: Tesla was ranked number four for luxury car sales in the third quarter of 2018.
Vehicle sales in the US
KBB’s report also shows a 2.5 percent increase in what the industry calls “transaction prices” for new cars—the price a customer pays once options are added and discounts are taken off the base price. And the numbers indicate that Tesla, with an average transaction price of $67,815 overall, is largely responsible: Take the Muskmobiles out of the mix, and the overall increase is just 1.5 percent.
As Tesla continues to scale up production of the Model 3, it’s only selling higher priced versions, with a $5,000 premium package included. In October it introduced a new “midrange” model with 260 miles of range and a starting price of $45,000. But add in metallic paint, fancy wheels, and Autopilot, and the price climbs to more like $55,000. What's more, it’s still selling the Model S sedan and Model X SUV, which can cost as much as $150,000, fully specced.
CHART: Tesla's transaction prices were third highest of all car brands in October 2018.
Average transaction price
The big question for Tesla (and the analysts and investors who monitor it closely) is whether it can maintain this momentum. Presumably, many of the 400,000-plus people who reserved the right to buy a Model 3 will want the yet-to-arrive $35,000 version. Musk says the company can’t make that car and stay profitable yet, but promises to in six months or so. (Remember that Musk and deadlines have a tricky relationship.) Even if its sales do slow, Fleming says the Model 3's success is remarkable. Tesla’s market share increased from 0.5 percent this time last year to 2.1 percent in September. Brands like Jeep or Subaru have seen similar rises, but over four or five years. Tesla did it in eight months.
The Silicon Valley automaker's longer term plans include a small SUV called the Model Y, which, given the proclivities of US car buyers, may see even more demand than the Model 3. If Elon Musk gets it right, this won’t be the last time Tesla has a quantifiable impact on car sales.
I think this topic has been beat to death by now, but last quarter was perfect storm for Tesla. Production finally caught up to their backlog, they only sold the most expensive models and this was the quarter to order a car to get it in time prior to the tax credit ending. This particular quarter while successful doesn’t really speak to anything long term. Adding new product lines will most likely just cannibalize their own market.
Meanwhile nobody talks about the Model X and S anymore. That’s because their demand has pretty much flattened out.
I think this topic has been beat to death by now, but last quarter was perfect storm for Tesla. Production finally caught up to their backlog, they only sold the most expensive models and this was the quarter to order a car to get it in time prior to the tax credit ending. This particular quarter while successful doesn’t really speak to anything long term. Adding new product lines will most likely just cannibalize their own market.
Meanwhile nobody talks about the Model X and S anymore. That’s because their demand has pretty much flattened out.
sure, the tax credit timing helped Tesla for Q3 and probably more so for Q4. But looking specifically at their highest volume car, the Model 3, even at $50k without a tax credit puts it smack in BMW 3 series territory. Even the newly announced BMW 3 series appears to be "too little too late" with a mere evolution of their existing formula. I think BMW is in serious trouble.
sure, the tax credit timing helped Tesla for Q3 and probably more so for Q4. But looking specifically at their highest volume car, the Model 3, even at $50k without a tax credit puts it smack in BMW 3 series territory. Even the newly announced BMW 3 series appears to be "too little too late" with a mere evolution of their existing formula. I think BMW is in serious trouble.
I’m probably the wrong person to defend BMW. I’ve always been unimpressed with them. To me they all look like they did 30 years ago, their interiors are lame, and I think the “ultimate driving machine” is just a jingle that stuck. They do have a dedicated base of the lid own rabid fanboys though that will buy everything they make even if it sucks.
One thing you can do in a BMW 3 series that you can’t do in a Tesla however is live in an apartment or condo.
Wow,so if you live in a condo and have an EV charging spot then surely all condos are set up like that right?
Yeah, next topic.
They all could be, just like apartments could be, and be part of the rental cost (or the condo HOA fees).
Your assertion is that they are NOT anywhere and that assertion, is, like all your crap about EVs, BS.
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