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Old 06-29-2010, 09:46 PM
 
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What the helll are you talking about? Texas is apart of the United States along with the other 50 states...Mexico wasn't even a republic at one time in history...You act if Mexico was around during 500 b.c.
It was part of Mexico. I'm sure of it.

 
Old 06-29-2010, 10:06 PM
 
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but that is largely due to illegal immigration of today and decades past. what is so hard to understand about that?

currently, hispanics make up about 34% of greater houston. if you took away the estimated illegal population, they would make up about 25% of the MSA. now imagine how much smaller that number would be if you took away the texas born children of illegals
I was thinking the same thing...if you take away the anchor babies, Id venture to say that number goes down dramatically..when you also take into account the fact that many of our legal hispanic are dual citizens, there really isnt muchclassically Texan about them at all (in terms of it being their full identity)..if anything, they are only Texans nominally.

This certainly isnt anywhere near all legal hispanics in Texas, but it also isnt a negligible amount either.

But yeah, to answer the question, East Texas is in the Deep south if the Deep south is Mississippi, Alabama, LA etc. The rest of Texas East of the Transpecos is just a variant of the larger south.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 10:15 PM
 
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It was part of Mexico. I'm sure of it.
yea, it was. although the northern parts of mexico were sparsely populated at the time. very few people of mexican descent in texas actually descend from families who lived in texas during the time period of which texas was part of mexico.

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But yeah, to answer the question, East Texas is in the Deep south if the Deep south is Mississippi, Alabama, LA etc. The rest of Texas East of the Transpecos is just a variant of the larger south.
^this is correct by the way\

on an ironic sidenote, three years ago TexasReb was the first one to bring up this topic, now it seems he cant get it to go away

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Old 06-29-2010, 11:33 PM
 
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Either way, if you discount all the illegal immigrants in Texas and the anchor babies, Texas still is probably 5-6million Latinos strong. That's how it is. I don't understand everyone's denial.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 11:43 PM
 
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Either way, if you discount all the illegal immigrants in Texas and the anchor babies, Texas still is probably 5-6million Latinos strong. That's how it is. I don't understand everyone's denial.
i highly doubt that. and who's in denial?

edit: probably shouldn't say that i highly doubt that. one thing i'm pretty sure of, without illegal immigrants and the "anchor babies", houston, dallas, and most areas east of i-35 would not be heavily populated with hispanics. even if texas still had a mexican population in the millions, it would most likely be largely concentrated in western and south texas
 
Old 06-29-2010, 11:54 PM
 
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i highly doubt that. and who's in denial?

edit: probably shouldn't say that i highly doubt that. one thing i'm pretty sure of, without illegal immigrants and the "anchor babies", houston, dallas, and most areas east of i-35 would not be heavily populated with hispanics. even if texas still had a mexican population in the millions, it would most likely be largely concentrated in western and south texas
Ok, I see what you mean. It would still be in the millions, just not as much as places East of I-35. I think places ON I-35 but South of Waco(Austin, SA, San Marcos, etc) would still have large Latino populations.
 
Old 06-30-2010, 12:46 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Either you're not making a point or we are misunderstanding each other. My post was never questioning what Texas is now. My post was saying that Texas will see a cultural shift in the coming decades due to the rapidly changing demographics and that shows no signs of slowing down.
What kind of cultural shift? Texas has always had a lot of Mexicans. i don't see how more coming is really going to change the Texas culture all that much. I'm honestly more worried about east and west coast transplants doing that.
 
Old 06-30-2010, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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[quote=AlGreen;14832870]Center for Immigration Studies
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Looks like they are just simply discussing estimates in that paragraph instead of a regular headcount.
 
Old 06-30-2010, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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What kind of cultural shift? Texas has always had a lot of Mexicans. i don't see how more coming is really going to change the Texas culture all that much. I'm honestly more worried about east and west coast transplants doing that.
According to what I'm getting in this thread, there doesn't seem to be many Hispanics or Mexicans in Texas that are actually legal right now so I guess the impact of the Hispanic Community has not been felt by some in Texas in this thread yet. I mean 9 million Hispanics estimated in Texas (being the 2nd largest in the country and being 3 times larger than the next largest Minority group) is somehow insignificant.
 
Old 06-30-2010, 09:25 AM
 
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Center for Immigration Studies
Looks like they are just simply discussing estimates in that paragraph instead of a regular headcount.
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The Census Bureau also estimates that roughly one million illegal aliens were likely missed in last year's count
this clearly states that illegals were counted in the 2000 census
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