U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Texas
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 1.5 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Jump to a detailed profile or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Business Search - 14 Million verified businesses
Search for:  near: 
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-10-2010, 12:06 PM
 
2,027 posts, read 4,718,801 times
Reputation: 605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdall View Post
I'm sorry, but who's the rest of the world? WCS is a Texas company and it looks like the Andrews county officials don't seem to mind this, moreover it appears that they actually volunteered to be the Texas Solution.

The locals support it as well. Which isn't surprising. In a county where average personal income is around $16K/year I think they are ready to jump on any opportunity that has a job-creating potential.
Andrews is my hometown and I can guarantee the only people that support it have ties to the company! It is owned by billionaire Harold Simmons.

The company has spent a lot of money to make the town appear to be in favor of them.

Waste Control Specialists Protest Planned for This Saturday - KFDA - NewsChannel 10 / Amarillo News, Weather, Sports


By the way the fire department in Andrews is all volunteer. As in volunteers get a call on their cell phone at home. Let's hope no emergency warrants a HazMat response.

The "Texas Solution" website and campaign are paid for and operated by Waste Control Specialists!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-10-2010, 12:15 PM
 
2,027 posts, read 4,718,801 times
Reputation: 605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdall View Post
There are similar sites in South Carolina, Utah, and Washington, with people living in those areas just fine. At least I haven't heard of anyone being born with a tail or an extra body part.
Maxey Flats is now a SUPERFUND SITE! All 7 previous llrw dumps have leaked. Washington had problems with water contamination. The dump sites have become burdens. State and federal governments have to come up with hundred of millions (taxpayer money) for cleanup.

There is a reason NO "LOW LEVEL RADIOACTIVE WASTE" DUMP HAS BEEN BUILT IN ALMOST 40 YEARS!

Some "low level radioactive waste" is actually more radioactive than "high level radioactive waste". Some of these radioactive elements boast a half-life of thousands of years!!!

When did Texans sign up to be the "solution" to this problem?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-10-2010, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Trans-Pecos Texas
8,235 posts, read 11,562,261 times
Reputation: 4005
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdall View Post
I'm sorry, but who's the rest of the world? WCS is a Texas company and it looks like the Andrews county officials don't seem to mind this, moreover it appears that they actually volunteered to be the Texas Solution.

The locals support it as well. Which isn't surprising. In a county where average personal income is around $16K/year I think they are ready to jump on any opportunity that has a job-creating potential.
Yes, I am very well aware of all this. I used to live in Midland, TX, which is close by....and this all started a long time ago.

It ticked me off then--and it ticks me off NOW.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-10-2010, 12:20 PM
 
2,027 posts, read 4,718,801 times
Reputation: 605
Oh, and only 45% of the employees are from Texas! The other 55% live in New Mexico. Hmm?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-10-2010, 01:33 PM
 
Location: West Texas
423 posts, read 466,164 times
Reputation: 258
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgannaway89 View Post
There is a reason NO "LOW LEVEL RADIOACTIVE WASTE" DUMP HAS BEEN BUILT IN ALMOST 40 YEARS!
You sound like those guys who bring up Chernobyl every time they wanna oppose the use of nuclear energy. Don't you think that technology has improved over the last 40 years and so did the regulations? After groundwater contaminations on previous sites people pretty much realized that dumping toxic waste in 15 ft deep trenches and capping them with dirt in wet-climate areas like Maxey Flats and West Falls was probably not the good idea. And started looking for ways to make storage facilities safer and build them in SW areas with an arid climate.

Quote:
Some "low level radioactive waste" is actually more radioactive than "high level radioactive waste". Some of these radioactive elements boast a half-life of thousands of years!!!
A piece of protective clothing has higher radiation than a nuclear rod? Why am I having such a hard time believing that? Unless you referring to some really really specific type of low-level waste, but the thing is if it has radiation levels higher than high-level waste it will no longer be shipped to a low-level waste storage

Quote:
When did Texans sign up to be the "solution" to this problem?
Quote:
ANDREWS, Texas — May 11, 2010 — Texans overwhelmingly support the Waste Control Specialists’ low-level radioactive waste disposal facility in Andrews County in far west Texas, according to the results of a new statewide poll released today by the Andrews Industrial Foundation (AIF).

Sixty-one (61) percent of Texans support the disposal of low-level radioactive waste when initially asked and that number increased to 72 percent when they learned more about the facility.

The statewide survey also shows Texans overwhelmingly support the notion that the
citizens of Andrews should be allowed to pursue the disposal of low-level radioactive waste in their county.

“From our poll results, the conclusion is clear: the people of Texas strongly support the
WCS facility,” said pollster Mike Baselice, president and CEO of Baselice & Associates, Inc. “In addition, the poll reveals that across the state, Texans support the ability of Andrews to determine its own economic future.”

Full release
Keep in mind that while I'm completely open to an idea that the whole article is a lying WCS' propaganda, I'd like to see the evidence of the really strong opposition to this project in Andrews county. Because the only attitudes I've seen so far in that area was is either apathy or excitement about new jobs. And very few people actually seem to oppose it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-10-2010, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Abilene, Texas
8,596 posts, read 4,181,445 times
Reputation: 54881
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgannaway89 View Post
Maxey Flats is now a SUPERFUND SITE! All 7 previous llrw dumps have leaked. Washington had problems with water contamination. The dump sites have become burdens. State and federal governments have to come up with hundred of millions (taxpayer money) for cleanup.

There is a reason NO "LOW LEVEL RADIOACTIVE WASTE" DUMP HAS BEEN BUILT IN ALMOST 40 YEARS!

Some "low level radioactive waste" is actually more radioactive than "high level radioactive waste". Some of these radioactive elements boast a half-life of thousands of years!!!

When did Texans sign up to be the "solution" to this problem?
Yeah, and this site will have leaks too. Putting this new site anywhere near a water source like that gigantic aquifer is crazy! Why not pick a site out in the middle of the barren desert where there aren't contamination issues? IMO, all dumps sites whether they contain low or high radioactive wastes should be at sites where there is virtually no possibility of a leak causing contamination issues to people, agriculture, livestock, or other animals. The risk is simply too great to justify any number of new jobs created.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-10-2010, 01:39 PM
 
Location: West Texas
423 posts, read 466,164 times
Reputation: 258
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cathy4017 View Post
Yes, I am very well aware of all this. I used to live in Midland, TX, which is close by....and this all started a long time ago.

It ticked me off then--and it ticks me off NOW.
This doesn't really answer my question but raises two new ones. What started long time ago? And what ticked you off then?

You knew before everyone else did that someday they'll decide to put a toxic waste disposal in West Texas?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-10-2010, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
687 posts, read 797,313 times
Reputation: 505
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdall View Post
This doesn't really answer my question but raises two new ones. What started long time ago? And what ticked you off then?

You knew before everyone else did that someday they'll decide to put a toxic waste disposal in West Texas?
I'm guessing she's probably referring to the WIPP facility just across the border from Andrews County in NM in the county where I'm from. It was a big deal back in the 1980s and opened in the early 1990s.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-10-2010, 02:00 PM
 
2,027 posts, read 4,718,801 times
Reputation: 605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdall View Post
Keep in mind that while I'm completely open to an idea that the whole article is a lying WCS' propaganda, I'd like to see the evidence of the really strong opposition to this project in Andrews county. Because the only attitudes I've seen so far in that area was is either apathy or excitement about new jobs. And very few people actually seem to oppose it.
Andrews Industrial Foundation is a WCS lobbyist organization.

Other polls have indicated strong opposition. Can we just put it in your backyard?

Sierra Club disputes poll | poll, sierra, club - Local News - Odessa American Online (http://www.oaoa.com/articles/poll-47391-sierra-club.html - broken link)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-10-2010, 02:15 PM
 
2,027 posts, read 4,718,801 times
Reputation: 605
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heimdall View Post
This doesn't really answer my question but raises two new ones. What started long time ago? And what ticked you off then?

You knew before everyone else did that someday they'll decide to put a toxic waste disposal in West Texas?
WCS was formed in 1989 by a Houston businessman. The Andrews facility was planned to be a hazardous waste landfill (no mention of radioactive disposal). In 1997 it was bought by Dallas' billionaire Harold Simmons. The "waste wars" at the time forced states to form compacts to dispose of waste. Only a few compacts formed... one being the Texas-Vermont-Maine compact. Maine later dropped out. The state wanted to build a facility in Sierra Blanca, but plans were later dropped. WCS sued the DOE to allow a private company to open a nuclear waste dump. He hired a team of lobbyist and donated millions to political campaigns. Plans called for WCS to dispose of waste from the compact states (Texas & Vermont).

Now plans have grown to include 36 states (all states without a compact). The TLLRWDCC planned to vote on allowing Texas to import the nation's waste in June. The meeting was attended by numerous WCS employees and protesters. The ruling was scrapped (after receiving thousand of comments in opposition) so that the plan could be "retooled". Many people in Andrews are still unaware of plans to import the waste! The local news media is completely biased.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Options
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2011 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram

Over $84,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Texas

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2014, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 - Top