Texans VS Californians (Dallas, China, Abbott: inspectors, pricing, dangerous)

[texasdreamin]

Originally Posted by smackie94

What the hell is so good about diversity????
somebody answer that for me please

you know what i have seen come with diversity?
crime.
liberalism.
other assorted bullcrap.

you call that progress????? its a forward form of regression. look at rome they progressed so much it collapsed.

oh yeah, i can recognize somebody elses religion or practices or deal with crap i find annoying and strange. wow, oh yeah the food, i can suffer without it and if i really want some other food, i will go there where it originated.

before some of you dimwits (the ones who will fulfill the next part of the statement) start accusing me of being a racist or bigot i am not. i grew up in california and have been alot of places around the world. everywhere i have tried to live in texas was to be around people who are more similar to me. not to have some other person try and cram whatever they feel, think or believe up my backside and tell me its good.

and with that being said, is why alot of texans are sick of californians coming here and trying to turn it into california. if you want california go back.

california has alot of great stuff, but i have found i cannot stand to be there anymore because of the many facets of california make me disapointed it has turned into a over crowded, polluted, expensive land of self victimization and self rigthoeusness.
not the place i grew up in.

if that is what you want....move there or stay there, dont bring that crap here.

native californian now living in texas

Wow...and you just joined the site and already the rudeness extrudes. Didn't even take a little time to try to get to know anyone, first, and you're already calling people dimwits. That's just one thing that the Texans do not like about Californians. They say we are rude. Looks like you're "bringing the crap here."

[CMDallas]

Texas is going to become another California, which will have its ups and downs.

Firstly: the Texas population is exploding.
2nd: California is amongst the most diverse states, the only thing that really separates the 2 racially is that California has a higher Asian population, which Houston, Austin and DFW are doing a great Job of catching up.
Large Cities tend to be liberal, so logically if you population gets bigger you liberal population will to.
Right now everyone know Texas is Dead Conservative... or used to be, Texas being one of the 4 states to be minority majority(like California as well) will probably go dead Liberal like California. The only thing that can prevent that is if the Hispanic population starts to lean towards the Republicans, which they're doing a terribly awful job of doing. The reasons California is so wacko is because it is too liberal. You get arrested for having a baseball bat in your trunk for defense. Now not too long ago, California was a pretty conservative state, as you can see... not anymore... Texas is bound to become a California, except with different weather. You see the seeds of it all we own 3 of the 10 largest cities in the countries like California.
I see the rise of a more liberal Republican Party, full with John McCainSSS... I like him hehe.... Now that California is just getting more expensive all the Californians are fleeing to other states like the South and Midwest. which will give us a boast into becoming a California ... whoopee -.-. I like there diversity but some of the law there are just insane.

[smackie94]

Originally Posted by sberdrow

Clinton: NAFTA was his mistake, a policy widely supported by the Republican Congress.

The Clinton Years: Remember When:

Gas was 75 cents to 99 cents and we were pissed about it.

i remember. EPA regs and other things have a little to do with future increases, those came on during his admin

A budget Surplus

looking at basic economics, how was clinton responisble for the budget boom? the conditons he set up were not good for long term growth, but for an immediate increase, then how did bush get the blame when it burst (right when he got into office)
but i have to admit i am not the expert on economics.

but i would rather have my money then the govt


His Justice department caught the guys who attacted the WTC on his watch and they are now in jail.

yeah that worked well. ever hear or a dress rehearsal?


Welfare reform
more welfare??

100,000 more cops on the streets of america
um ok, lets compare that to the neutering of the military.
lets see how the attorney general handle Waco and Ruby Ridge?
other then that...that is cool


College Tuition Grants in excange for community service
who pays for that?

Stable real estate market
Clinton had a hand in that? or was it his short term economy?

those 3500 future soldiers of Iraq were still alive
I am trying to go and be civil about this one, its very close to home with me. his govt and his ass kiss attitude with foreign policy emboldened countires like Iraq to stand up to us and the UN becasue he was a wuss and knew nobody was going to do anything about it. find his quotes on Iraq as well sounded alot like what Bush said. only he sat on it for 8 yrs.
lob a missle into the desert in afghanistan and osama really learned his lesson huh?
lets also look at his military succes in bosia/kosovo...oh wat we are still there, how about somolia? that turned out well and now is a hotbed for muslim radicalism and terrorism?
oh yeah did he ever bring to justice the bomberis in kenya for the USS cole?

We had building 1 2 and 7 of the world trade center standing
thought those guys were in jail. good job bill.
most of the intel on al queda and Iraq was from bills admin

Most of the world respected us (yes I was in the service and felt the love and respect all over the world for president Clinton)
its becsaue he let the rest of the world take a pretty big steamy dump on us and gave away our money....and they knew ol bill would cut and run or bow down at the first sign of confrontation. why wouldnt the world like him? they had the world superpower at there beckoned call

if you dont mind me asking what branch and when, I was USMC from 94-05

[ladysrodgers]

Originally Posted by smackie94

what is so great about it?....it still is what california was in the past, but has ruined since then....

Texas is nothing like California has ever been. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, it's just a fact. There's a totally different mind set in CA. If for no other reason, there isn't the huge cowboy influx there.

[blueskies49]

Yes, the western aspect of Texas as well as the Southern. Texas was settled by Southerners and then of course the cowboy tradition is much bigger here. Two different cultures and traditions.

[smackie94]

Originally Posted by ladysrodgers

Texas is nothing like California has ever been. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, it's just a fact. There's a totally different mind set in CA. If for no other reason, there isn't the huge cowboy influx there.

i disagree. the california mindset was very similar in many aspects to the texas mindset (not including hollywood of course).
and of course there are always exceptions to the rule in this case.

that is what changed in my opinion about california. that is the MAIN thing i think changed about california.

california seemed to go way left on everything in the last ten years. (keep in mind that i am mostly refering to the Bay area from my experiance, but have seen similar elsewhere there)

the cowboy thing is a misnomer, i have met more legit cowboys in california then i have in texas (livermore, fremont, fresno, bakersfiled etc etc). they just dont seem to be shunned as inbred hillbillies as much in texas..

p.s. these statements are broad statements meant as a whole. and are not all inclusive hard fast rule for every person

[blueskies49]

Originally Posted by smackie94

i disagree. the california mindset was very similar in many aspects to the texas mindset (not including hollywood of course).
and of course there are always exceptions to the rule in this case.

Smackie94, in what way do you think the mindsets are similar? You are right, CA is way left and still seems to be, generally. But there are some posters on this board who are tired of it and want to get out and move to TX or wherever and in this way probably do have the same mindset as here.

that is what changed in my opinion about california. that is the MAIN thing i think changed about california.

california seemed to go way left on everything in the last ten years. (keep in mind that i am mostly refering to the Bay area from my experiance, but have seen similar elsewhere there)

the cowboy thing is a misnomer, i have met more legit cowboys in california then i have in texas (livermore, fremont, fresno, bakersfiled etc etc). they just dont seem to be shunned as inbred hillbillies as much in texas..

p.s. these statements are broad statements meant as a whole. and are not all inclusive hard fast rule for every person

Hm, I know you said your statements are broad but I have to disagree about the cowboy thing. I agree with you that there are very legit cowboys in CA, also in Colorado, Wyoming, Montana and then of course, Texas. I've never had the impression that they are shunned here like you say. The cowboy tradition in TX is very old and well respected, IMO.

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by CMDallas

I like there diversity but some of the law there are just insane.

So you don't like pro-consumer laws like pricing histories available from the county weights and measures division of or warnings like flame-retardant information on pillows?

[LDH]

Wow, it's amazing how some people look down on Californians. I had a 14 year old boy make a very rude comment to me about what type of people live in CA, which neither one of the terms fit me or my family and friends. I wonder if it would help people to accept me more since there is a town named after my family?

We are considering a move to TX because we like it there. DH and I are in our mid-forties and don't own a home in CA because we can't afford it. TX would allow us the chance to buy one. We also like it because TX is closer to our views politically and the people we ran into were friendly.

[ladysrodgers]

Originally Posted by smackie94

i disagree. the california mindset was very similar in many aspects to the texas mindset (not including hollywood of course).
and of course there are always exceptions to the rule in this case.

that is what changed in my opinion about california. that is the MAIN thing i think changed about california.

california seemed to go way left on everything in the last ten years. (keep in mind that i am mostly refering to the Bay area from my experiance, but have seen similar elsewhere there)

the cowboy thing is a misnomer, i have met more legit cowboys in california then i have in texas (livermore, fremont, fresno, bakersfiled etc etc). they just dont seem to be shunned as inbred hillbillies as much in texas..

p.s. these statements are broad statements meant as a whole. and are not all inclusive hard fast rule for every person

I don't know how old you are, but I was born and raised in CA, and I'm 56 now. I grew up in Southern California and lived there for about 33 years. I then moved to the northbay area, and lived there for nearly 20 years.

No, the cowboy thing is not a misnomer. It's huge part of the Texas heritage, and it's never been that large of an influence in CA.

How do you find a legit cowboy in Fremont or Livermore? They're both cities! The areas you mentioned above are well-known to Californians for being the armpit of the state. Those areas are full of illegal Hispanic imigrants, who brought the "cowboy" influence with them. They're also full of truck drivers who are wannabe cowboys. Those areas are certainly not a good, or fair representation of what the state is about.

I believe you mentioned you either lived, or worked in the silicone valley. Who wouldn't get sick of that rat race?? It sounds as though you adopted their way of thinking though by your other comments.

Ask yourself though, what is the single one reason the bay area swung so far to the left liberal direction in the past 10 years? Answer......gays and their influence. Like it or not, that is the answer.

I emphatically restate, CA has never been like Texas.