Texans VS Californians (Houston, Dallas, Austin: schools, property tax, to live in)

[ladysrodgers]

Originally Posted by bellestaroftexas

i just fail to see the appeal of California. now, i have not been to many places in California-my visits have been to: Beverly Hills, LAX, Huntington Beach, Oceanside, Del Mar By The Sea, San Diego, North Island, Santa Monica.
i disliked every bit of it. i found the people, in general, to be very superficial, not homey or down to earth, very materialistic, very liberal, the traffic horrendous. (i will never forget when i was a flight nurse and landed in Santa Monica and had to then transport my patient by ground ambulance to Los Angeles Childrens Hospital-i had never seen so many lanes on a freeway, and crazy drivers. i was skeered to death. in terms of housing, i just saw so much congestion-cookie cutter houses so close together. no wide open spaces to breathe in! i just dont get it. i know i would be making A WHOLE LOT of money in California as an RN and I will give California credit for being a union state for RN's and keeping RN salaries high and nurseatient ratios appropriate and safe. but even with $100,000 a year i would make in California, with the cost of living, i would be MUCH poorer, where in Texas an RN can make $85,000 (or more) and wow...look at what we can buy for under 200K-in some areas, heck, we can even buy a mini-ranch for that!! quality of life is SO much better in Texas. oh and we dont have state income tax!!
friendlier folks, wide open spaces...cant get any better

You're certainly entitled to your opinon. FYI, there are tons of wide open spaces, you just needed to get out of the LA area. Look on a map and see how far south LA is.

I've lived in southern and northern CA. I prefer the north by far, and for all the reasons you described above.

As far as income tax goes, it's a trade off. There are other fees people have to pay in Texas.

Friendlier people in Texas sure hasn't been my experience. In fact, all the things you described you disliked about the people in CA above, are things I've found to be exactly like people in the Dallas metroplex.

[NOTAM]

i hear ya...i am sure there are places that i would possibly like to live in California (that is, if Texas did NOT exist)....i would bet that i would like Twenty Nine Palms, Joshua, Barstow for examples....they seem to look like they have wide open spaces where the coyote roam.....but still, housing and land are so so so much more expensive in California even in rural areas. i would never have as much expendable income as i do here in Texas
and regarding Dallas...that is why i have not, will not, ever live in Dallas. and remember, that is just ONE small part of Texas, and most definitely not representative of Texas as a whole. i like small town Texas

Originally Posted by ladysrodgers

You're certainly entitled to your opinon. FYI, there are tons of wide open spaces, you just needed to get out of the LA area. Look on a map and see how far south LA is.

I've lived in southern and northern CA. I prefer the north by far, and for all the reasons you described above.

As far as income tax goes, it's a trade off. There are other fees people have to pay in Texas.

Friendlier people in Texas sure hasn't been my experience. In fact, all the things you described you disliked about the people in CA above, are things I've found to be exactly like people in the Dallas metroplex.

[blueskies49]

Originally Posted by ladysrodgers

following that train of thought, why doesn't Texas give the land back to the Mexicans, and Indians they stole it from? Come on, this is the 21st century!

You do have a point there! I guess as far as that goes, the United States may as well give back the land they stole from the Indians, too.

Originally Posted by sberdrow

you know I lived in the Pacific NorthWest and was spoiled with mountains. I then moved to Austin Texas.....no mountains. I just could not stand it. land with out mountains are just ugly wastelands. I ended up moving to the Rocky Mountains, top reason was just so I could look up when Idrive around and see those oh so protective mountains. Usually places with out mountains have a common site of cookie cutter neighborhoods as far as the eye can see. No Mountains to break up the sea of boreing homes.

Hm, sberdrow, you are just being mean-spirited. I think all of our states have a different kind of beauty all their own. I wouldn't want to live in the desert but those parts of the U.S. are still beautiful. I, myself, would feel closed in if I lived so close to the mountains but I agree that they are gorgeous and breathtaking. My brother lives in Denver and he's taken me up there and it's really quite beautiful!

Originally Posted by ladysrodgers

>>>I'm wondering what in the world has happened to you, to be so judgemental against Californians? There are idiots in every state. It sounds as though you ran into a few. Why do you think every Californian who moves to Texas wants to change Texas into California? I just don't get it, nor has it been my experience.

Not every Californian. Sorry if I gave that impression. I knew a sweet young woman who moved here from CA and she loved it except that she had to move back because of her husband's mental and health problems. She loved all the bbq joints but missed the In and Out Burger in CA! I think that's the name of it.

Human tendency, I guess, to classify a few bad apples into the same group as everyone else. I'm not saying that's right. But it's everything taken together through the years, I suppose. And when I said Californians, I meant those from up north, too. It's just that in this thread we are discussing CA. Why does anyone have to complain and/or make fun of the area where they've chosen to live? That is my main gripe. But it's no one's fault in relocating because these days it's usually a matter of economy to leave one's state.

Then there are some people from NY who have complained that there are no "decent" bagels down here. I find that rather funny! Why do they imagine that there would be New York style bagels here in Texas? And then complain that there aren't? What did they imagine Texas to be? Sure enough, though, someone from NY opened up an Einstein's Bagels in the DFW area so I guess they are happy now.

One of our subcontractors in the field is from NY and his name is Yankee. Not his given name, obviously, but apparently some Texans have taken it upon themselves to rechristen him "Yankee". He takes it in good fun, actually, he even called me one day and when I asked for his name he gave it as Yankee!

[Mike78613]

All I want to say is California, welcome to Texas

Everyone is open arms, some are stubborn, but that's every where! Majority of Texans welcome all to the Lone Star State.

[Roma]

Originally Posted by Mike78613

All I want to say is California, welcome to Texas

Everyone is open arms, some are stubborn, but that's every where! Majority of Texans welcome all to the Lone Star State.

What a sweet post!!! Thank you!

[OneDayInSomewhere]

Why can't everybody just get along? And since when does people moving from California to another state cause the inflation of prices in the new state? I've only taken one class in Economics but that just doesn't make sense to me. I do remember this argument when I lived in Colorado for a year....that too many Texans were moving to Colorado and they didn't like it. So i'm going to guess it's just one of many hangups that exists in America. It seems petty and almost like we have nothing better to worry about in this world.

I am one Texan that LOVES California....North California, but nevertheless, it's still California.

[CamaroGuy]

I'm a lifelong Californian who visited Texas in 2003 and 2004 and LOVED it there! Cali people could learn so much from Texans about politeness and good manners.

[jus4us]

I do not understand why someone would think tax after tax in Ca. In Ca. theres a state tax that amounts to about 900.00 on earnings of 50k a year. Texas property taxes are so much more than that. Has anyone considered this ?

Originally Posted by lionking

Look I'm just saying.....well ya bluntly Californian's do have a bad rep,I know there are different people with different views there,alot of nice people,but overall Cali is known for voting in government regulation after regulation,tax after tax,and so on which has now made many wanting to escape there for other states like Texas.

Could the same people who voted in such a way as to make Cali a undesirable place to live do the same in a new state?Or it could be those who from Cali prefere other laws of more free states want to move there to be with people more their mindset...maybe. I'm just saying what a few Texans told me....

A while ago I read a article about natives in Nevada being unhappy with Cali transplants because they started voting no smoking in bars regulations and such.

glad for the photo comments btw,it was a eye opening experience to travel like that.

cheers

[another_hot-day]

Originally Posted by Mike78613

All I want to say is California, welcome to Texas

Everyone is open arms, some are stubborn, but that's every where! Majority of Texans welcome all to the Lone Star State.

Awwwwwe, thanks Mike.

[michele59]

I have to agree. I am from New Mexico, lived in CA for over 15 years and finally got to come to Texas about 5 years ago. The changes I have seen in just that short amount of time are prompting my family to move again. I do feel you should hold onto your roots, but don't attempt to create them and have everyone around you change as well. If you really want to keep things status quo, stay where you are happy, the Texans have.