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Old 08-27-2018, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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actually Spaniards are from Europe so the Spaniards were the first European derived people to come to Texas and they came before the 1800s.
Cabeza de Vaca was in Texas around 1530 though his intentions had been set on Florida.
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Old 08-29-2018, 12:12 AM
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Location: Southeast Arizona
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My judgement is based solely on visiting family in McKinney (Eastern Collin County, northeast of Dallas), Tyler and Marshall.
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Old 08-29-2018, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Houston
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actually Spaniards are from Europe so the Spaniards were the first European derived people to come to Texas and they came before the 1800s.
Good point. I know about the Tejanos, but I would add that their numbers weren't very large. Which is why the Mexican government of Santa Ana decided to let "Anglo-American" people settle in Texas, in hopes damping down the activities of native american tribes, some of whom were raiding farther into the interior of Mexico.

I used to work with a guy who was proud that his family lived in Texas on land that was granted to them by the king of Spain. I think he identified more with being of Spanish heritage than as Mexican.
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Old 08-29-2018, 07:56 PM
 
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Good point. I know about the Tejanos, but I would add that their numbers weren't very large. Which is why the Mexican government of Santa Ana decided to let "Anglo-American" people settle in Texas, in hopes damping down the activities of native american tribes, some of whom were raiding farther into the interior of Mexico.

I used to work with a guy who was proud that his family lived in Texas on land that was granted to them by the king of Spain. I think he identified more with being of Spanish heritage than as Mexican.
Thanks.Okay, I see.
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Old 09-09-2018, 06:29 PM
 
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Cabeza de Vaca was in Texas around 1530 though his intentions had been set on Florida.
Okay thanks I learned about Cabeza de Vaca in Texas history but i forgot the year.I knew he was searching for Florida.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:06 PM
 
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Okay thanks I learned about Cabeza de Vaca in Texas history but i forgot the year.I knew he was searching for Florida.
By the time he made it to Texas he was no longer searching for Florida, he'd already been there with his superior Hernando de Soto and crew. Florida was inhospitable and held little in the way of gold, silver, or promise for other exploitations. They sailed west in the Gulf of Mexico and shipwrecked in Galveston. Cabeza de Vaca ended up walking across Texas living with various indigenous tribes, transforming himself into a medicine man. He eventually walked all the way to central Mexico. Very interesting figure worth reading more on.
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Old 09-10-2018, 07:19 AM
 
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Me and my family just got done spending a week in LA, MS, AL and GA... in other words, the deepest of the Deep South. I was constantly comparing the Deep South to Texas. I have also previously lived in TN and GA. My overall impression is that Texas has strong southern influences but it isn't truly southern in the same way that a state like MS or AL is.

Sure, East Texas behind the piney curtain is undeniably southern. Dallas and Houston also have strong southern influences. But there are too many other cultural influences that keep Texas as a whole from being truly southern. It's a messy mix of southern, southwestern, Mexican and whatever awful cultural characteristics Yankee and Californian transplants have brought with them.
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Old 09-10-2018, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Me and my family just got done spending a week in LA, MS, AL and GA... in other words, the deepest of the Deep South. I was constantly comparing the Deep South to Texas. I have also previously lived in TN and GA. My overall impression is that Texas has strong southern influences but it isn't truly southern in the same way that a state like MS or AL is.

Sure, East Texas behind the piney curtain is undeniably southern. Dallas and Houston also have strong southern influences. But there are too many other cultural influences that keep Texas as a whole from being truly southern. It's a messy mix of southern, southwestern, Mexican and whatever awful cultural characteristics Yankee and Californian transplants have brought with them.
I think it's a pretty glorious mess though!
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Old 09-10-2018, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Me and my family just got done spending a week in LA, MS, AL and GA... in other words, the deepest of the Deep South. I was constantly comparing the Deep South to Texas. I have also previously lived in TN and GA. My overall impression is that Texas has strong southern influences but it isn't truly southern in the same way that a state like MS or AL is.

Sure, East Texas behind the piney curtain is undeniably southern. Dallas and Houston also have strong southern influences. But there are too many other cultural influences that keep Texas as a whole from being truly southern. It's a messy mix of southern, southwestern, Mexican and whatever awful cultural characteristics Yankee and Californian transplants have brought with them.
There are minimal differences between East Texas and its adjacent Southern states. Basically the further West you go the more Texan it gets. I would never consider Texas as a whole Southern. It just isn't especially when looking at cities like El Paso, Laredo, Amarillo, etc. These cities are by no means Southern. Texas is too big to be generalized.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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By the time he made it to Texas he was no longer searching for Florida, he'd already been there with his superior Hernando de Soto and crew. Florida was inhospitable and held little in the way of gold, silver, or promise for other exploitations. They sailed west in the Gulf of Mexico and shipwrecked in Galveston. Cabeza de Vaca ended up walking across Texas living with various indigenous tribes, transforming himself into a medicine man. He eventually walked all the way to central Mexico. Very interesting figure worth reading more on.
wow thats interesting,Campeador.Thanks for the history lesson.
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