Texas population growth (Houston, San Antonio, Austin: best city, purchase, to live)

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by DANNYY

Nothing impressive.

you don't think little sleepy towns just 10 years ago like Fredericksburg going from 20K to 150K is impressive.

seriously I don't think all those central Texas/ Hill Country towns will gain that many people so quickly. Their charm right now is that they are small.

[Spade]

Yeah 2020 is the only one that seems realistic because it's obviously the closest. 2030-2060 is just for fun.

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

Six largest in 2060

1. Houston- 3,626,591 -underestimate
2. Fort Worth 2,161,533
3. San Antonio- 2,116,782 definitely under estimated.
4. Dallas 2,058,767
5. Austin 1,643,409
6. El Paso 970,000 - might be over counted.
Wow, FW surpassing both Dallas and SA???


Wow at these:
Conroe 200,000
Corpus 407,000
Denton 498,000
Laredo 650,000
Mansfield 154, 000 wow, just out of the blue????
Mskinney 380, 000
Missouri City 193, 000
Pasadena 256,000
Pearland 189,000 under count most definitely
Round Rock 356 000

Not really. Mansfield has about 60,000 people today. Was only in the 20,000s back in 2000. Mansfield is Fort Worth's southern boom burb. I actually live near the border of Arlington/Mansfield. All you see are a sea of headlights going north into Fort Worth in the morning from Mansfield.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by Scarface713

Not really. Mansfield has about 60,000 people today. Was only in the 20,000s back in 2000. Mansfield is Fort Worth's southern boom burb. I actually live near the border of Arlington/Mansfield. All you see are a sea of headlights going north into Fort Worth in the morning from Mansfield.

that is what I am saying man. 20K just ten years ago, and boom explosion.

But I wonder why they have it so high and Pearland so low. Pearland gained almost 100K this past decade and it has a huge chunk of Brazoria county all to itself. I see Pearland at 350K by 2060 easily

[blkgiraffe]

Originally Posted by Spade

The only one you should bother with is the 2020 one. Anything after that year, you shouldn't bother with it.

*edit*
They have Killeen at 113,000 as of 2010. Census as of 2009 estimates has the city at 119,000. As does the the local water company.

Same with Waco. It has it at 121,355 for 2010; yet the city population was estimated to be at about 126,217 in 2009.

[AmberAzeneth]

The Pearland and the Woodlands area are huge under estimates. But you have to admit these numbers that they do predict are amazing. Houston is under estimated by at least 500,000 or so.

[DANNYY]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

you don't think little sleepy towns just 10 years ago like Fredericksburg going from 20K to 150K is impressive.

Nope. (Not being sarcastic either)

Originally Posted by HtownLove

seriously I don't think all those central Texas/ Hill Country towns will gain that many people so quickly. Their charm right now is that they are small.

I don't think its impressive mainly because it doesn't factor in other variables. They didn't factor in what will happen with the following: Panamax 2014, Interstate-69, New Freight Lines, the second campus of TMC on Barker Cypress, IAH commercial traffic expected to rise.

That is a logistical sense. They only banked on present trends. I am absolutely unimpressed with that they had to report, I guess because I am expecting more out of these places than they have: El Paso, Houston, San Antonio, & Corpus Christi (they DEFINITELY under counted this one).

I was going through some stuff earlier last night actually. We're ahead of schedule here in Houston MSA in various things. The population the state had us pinned down for in 2015 we got to in 2009. The population they had us pinned for (as a metropolitan area) in 2020 we'll be getting there with 7 years to spare ahead of schedule.

The projections even for Texas Medical Center is wrong:
- In 1999 they projected in 2015 Texas Medical Center would have a max space of 29 Million Gross Square Feet.
- In 2008 the Texas Medical Center surpassed "the max space for 2015" with 33 Million Gross Square Feet. It got 4 Million extra Gross Square Feet AND did it 7 years ahead of schedule.

Now Texas Medical Center is still expanding in the Inner Loop location and will go on to 2014 adding ANOTHER $7 Billion worth of stuff there. It will nearly double what it was in 2009 (which was already globally impressive to the entire world) in 2014.

To add to that, they have started yet ANOTHER campus for Texas Medical Center near Katy, called Texas Medical Center-West, which will be just as large as the present Texas Medical Center inside Inner Loop. And they've already built two or three hospitals there already which will be opening in a few months and are getting started with hotels, apartments, and other institutions for it.

Source: Nancy Sarnoff: Med Center's brand expands west | Nancy Sarnoff: Real Estate | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

So all these people who wrongfully think Houston only has ONE Medical center, will be even more wrong when we have two mega Medical Centers, and various other smaller ones (we have a lot of other smaller ones, the size of Los Angeles's main one).

So nahh, I think these projections are off, they didn't take the economy (which is unpredictable) into account and they also used the rate that applies for "growth" this year and applied it for the next 59 years. I don't take much into that account, I created a mega city thread earlier to share thoughts on potentials and stuff already.

It wasn't impressive to me at all I guess.

Here are some more for Houston, Harris County, & Texas: Population Projections 2000-2060

^ In 2010, we already passed their projections by a whopping 50,000 people already. We're ahead of schedule.

[AmberAzeneth]

What would your numbers look like DANNY for that time frame if you had to make some estimations? I would be real interested to read those. You always post some great numbers.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by AmberAzeneth

The Pearland and the Woodlands area are huge under estimates. But you have to admit these numbers that they do predict are amazing. Houston is under estimated by at least 500,000 or so.

I did not see an estimate for the Woodlands.

looks like they are expecting huge growth in Montgomery County though.

Houston:
Montgomery- 1,444,999
Harris- 6,833,751
Fort bend- 1,643,825

FW:
Tarrant- 3,353,000


San Antonio:
Bexar- 2,500,000

Austin:
Travis- 1,918, 000
Williamson- 1,240,000

The Valley:
Hidalgo 2,048,000 wow


Other:
Loving- 67- LMAO

[AmberAzeneth]

They stopped estimating The Woodlands in 2030 at 119,300. Just like they stopped estimating Sugarland at 105,000 in 2030.