2010 Census results thread for Texas (Houston, Dallas: neighborhood, centers, land)
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It's the 3rd most diverse county in the country after Queens County, NY & Alameda County, CA. The next county in the region of the American South I believe is some county near the Research Triangle called "Robeson County, NC". Not really all that bad for Fort Bend County, TX.
yeah, I am shocked how even the races are.
it is like
29% white
25% Hispanic
25% Black
20% Asian
totally awesome
(did the math in my head so it might be a lil off)
I would not say that Houston is following Dallas in terms of city vs Suburban growth. Houston has many cities completely encircled by the city limits and many unincorporated areas lying around the city.
Unlike DFW, The overwhelming heft of the increase from 2000- to 2010 was in Harris County- a 700k increase out of 1200k
In DFW however the growth was more spread out over a variety of counties.
what happened was that HOuston's native whites and blacks moved to the suburbs while a lot of new people still came to the main city/ county
Just because its in Harris county does not make it centralized or urban growth. While Harris county contains Houston, it also contains the majority of the suburbs of Houston. Harris county is the size of Dallas and Tarrant (or Collin or Denton for that matter) counties combined. It also makes up a larger portion of the area and population of its metro area, so I would have expected it to have that much growth.
Fort Worth saw more growth than Houston or Dallas which I kind of expected as well. Its nice to see it grow like that.
No matter how you slice it, the surburbs growth is now largely outweighing the cities growth and that is something that has been happening in DFW for years. Houston is following that trend.
Unlike DFW, The overwhelming heft of the increase from 2000- to 2010 was in Harris County- a 700k increase out of 1200k
In DFW however the growth was more spread out over a variety of counties.
what happened was that HOuston's native whites and blacks moved to the suburbs while a lot of new people still came to the main city/ county
I disagree here. The suburbs showing the most growth (Pearland, League City, Sugar Land, Missouri City, The Woodlands, and Baytown), are not surrounded by the City of Houston. There are some unincorporated areas, like Fresno, that have grown by almost 20,000 though, but places like that are in Houston's ETJ. Suburbs like Sugar Land, Missouri City, and Baytown would have shown a lot more growth if they had annexed their ETJ before the Census. The first two would be above 100K.
Just because its in Harris county does not make it centralized or urban growth. While Harris county contains Houston, it also contains the majority of the suburbs of Houston. Harris county is the size of Dallas and Tarrant (or Collin or Denton for that matter) counties combined. Fort Worth saw more growth than Houston or Dallas.
No matter how you slice it, the surburbs growth is now largely outweighing the cities growth and that is something that has been happening in DFW for years. No matter how you cut it, Houston is following that trend moreso that it has.
the suburban growth is larger than the city growth in every metro in the US and has been so for the last 60 years.
But the numbers are not changing for Houston over the last couple of decades like they did for DFW.
Houston suburbs are spread over 10 counties and the growth is still largely around the city of Houston amounting to 700K people. of that 250K is just sitting there in Houston ETJ belonging to city in particular.
The city itself gained 200K people. just a 100K less than it did in the 90's and a hella lot more than it did in the 80's.
its not like Dallas where the numbers were spread out in varying degrees all over the metro.
so no, I can slice it many ways, but the growth pattern in Houston has been the same as it has been for the last 170 years, radially around the core not all over the place like DFW. Houston is not following DFW in the least.
Fort Bend, Montgmery and Brazoria did grow a lot, but that growth was still radial around Houston
I disagree here. The suburbs showing the most growth (Pearland, League City, Sugar Land, Missouri City, The Woodlands, and Baytown), are not surrounded by the City of Houston.
you are forever reading my posts wrong. I said that most of the growth in the metro occured in HARRIS COUNTY unlike in DFW.. I also I said there are many cities surround by the city from THat, and a lot of unincorported places. now tell me. is sugarland, Missouri city, or any of the cities you mentioned in Harris county??? read my posts carefully before you waste your time disagreeing with irrelevant stuff.
the suburban growth is larger than the city growth in every metro in the US and has been so for the last 60 years.
But the numbers are not changing for Houston over the last couple of decades like they did for DFW.
Houston suburbs are spread over 10 counties and the growth is still largely around the city of Houston amounting to 700K people. of that 250K is just sitting there in Houston ETJ belonging to city in particular.
The city itself gained 200K people. just a 100K less than it did in the 90's and a hella lot more than it did in the 80's.
its not like Dallas where the numbers were spread out in varying degrees all over the metro.
so no, I can slice it many ways, but the growth pattern in Houston has been the same as it has been for the last 170 years, radially around the core not all over the place like DFW. Houston is not following DFW in the least.
Fort Bend, Montgmery and Brazoria did grow a lot, but that growth was still radial around Houston
Isn't that what he's basically saying? The suburbs are no growing faster than the city (much faster). Like you said, Houston gained almost 300K in the 90s. This decade, only about 147K, yet the metro area grew faster this decade than in the 90s. So, the suburbs are starting to get more of the growth. Whether they be in Houston's ETJ (like the Cypress and South Katy areas), or in their own cities in Harris County (like Baytown) or other counties.
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Originally Posted by HtownLove
you are forever reading my posts wrong. I said that most of the growth in the metro occured in HARRIS COUNTY unlike in DFW.. I also I said there are many cities surround by the city from THat, and a lot of unincorported places. now tell me. is sugarland, Missouri city, or any of the cities you mentioned in Harris county??? read my posts carefully before you waste your time disagreeing with irrelevant stuff.
I quoted the wrong post, Moderator cut: see comment
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Reason: I explained in my direct message why this was deleted.
before you all disagree over nonsense calculate it yourself
Harris County =700k
Rest of Metro= 500k
why would you disagree that the growth is not radially around Houston??
most of the growth is encircling Houston.
a full 60% of it
Who the hell said that growth is not going radially around Houston? All justme and I have been saying is that the growth in the suburbs are no more than the city. Harris County is huge (you should know) and there are a lot of suburbs in Harris County.
Isn't that what he's basically saying? The suburbs are no growing faster than the city (much faster). Like you said, Houston gained almost 300K in the 90s. This decade, only about 147K, yet the metro area grew faster this decade than in the 90s. So, the suburbs are starting to get more of the growth. Whether they be in Houston's ETJ (like the Cypress and South Katy areas), or in their own cities in Harris County (like Baytown) or other counties.
I quoted the wrong post,
no he is implying that Houston is following the pattern of Dallas. He said that Houston is following the Dallas trend.
no Houston is following the trend it has always been on.
Dallas had growth around the central cities for the first 100 years of its life then a push outwards for the last couple of decades.
Last edited by Bo; 02-20-2011 at 09:37 PM..
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Who the hell said that growth is not going radially around Houston? All justme and I have been saying is that the growth in the suburbs are no more than the city. Harris County is huge (you should know) and there are a lot of suburbs in Harris County.
that maybe what you have been claiming ( I don't know where you jumped in anyway with your wrong assumptions)
but go back to his post where he is implying that Houston is changing course to what Dallas has been on for the last couple of Decades.
Houston growth pattern is much different from Dallas.
DFW has dozens of nodes. Houston has one and all growth radiates from that
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