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Old 03-28-2011, 11:19 AM
 
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I'm sure this will get someone all rilled up. Maybe thats a good thing.

I want to point something out for everyones safety.

Unbelievably, it is legal for bicyclists to ride on roads in Texas that are 70 MPH, have no shoulders, twisty blind turns and blind hills/dips.

I'm referring to 30 miles of HWY 337 specifically between Leakey and Camp Wood. But I'm sure there are miles of other roads too they ride under the same conditions.

Beautiful road. BUT; it would have been a very, very bad day for that clown riding his bike on that road Sunday. If I had seen him a split second later as I came across that hilltop, he would have been a grease spot on that beautiful highway. Especially since there was an oncoming car and his bike was 2 feet to the left of the white edge line.

I have never heard of anything as asinine as letting them ride on roads like this. Its exactly like letting them ride right down I-10 (except I-10 has a shoulder most places). It wouldn't be safe if you had a neon colored blimp with flashing lights on it following you.

Simply cant believe. Hey, lets give the sakateboarders a turn too~!

They pay vehicle taxes too right? Um wait, no they dont.
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Old 03-28-2011, 11:34 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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They just passed a law that encourages this type of reckless behaviour. All motor vehicles must stay at least 3 feet away from bicyclists. If it were that simple we could jsut pass a law stating that all vehicles stay at least 3 feet from one another and there would be no more wrecks. The guy you saw Sunday probably thought he was safe because all moror vehicles have to stay away from him.
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Old 03-28-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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They just passed a law that encourages this type of reckless behaviour. All motor vehicles must stay at least 3 feet away from bicyclists. If it were that simple we could jsut pass a law stating that all vehicles stay at least 3 feet from one another and there would be no more wrecks. The guy you saw Sunday probably thought he was safe because all moror vehicles have to stay away from him.
If I had stayed 3 feet from him, I would have been in the front seat of the oncoming burgundy SUV that freaked out as much as I did. I hope Joe Bobby Bicyclist soiled his little semi pro spandex race pants. But he had another 15 miles to go and the roads just get twistyer after that......so he was even more of a damned hazard!
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Old 03-28-2011, 11:48 AM
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There probably wouldn't be any criminal charges if you hit a bicyclist under those circumstances. AFAIK, the driver in this double-fatality accident from '09 was never charged.
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Old 03-28-2011, 12:21 PM
 
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They pay vehicle taxes too right? Um wait, no they dont.
I am sure they pay vehicle taxes. Not all cycle riders depend solely on bikes. In fact, most of them take their bikes out to the hill country using a vehicle.

I am not supporting the cyclist's behavior btw. I was a cyclist and gave it up because the roads here are just not safe with my poor hearing. I have had some close calls and some of them were due to aggresive drivers, not road conditions.

The only way I would take up the sport again is if there was safe places, until then I will just continue to use my stationary bike.
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Old 03-28-2011, 12:59 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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There probably wouldn't be any criminal charges if you hit a bicyclist under those circumstances. AFAIK, the driver in this double-fatality accident from '09 was never charged.
There may not be charges filed but it will stay with him the rest of his life. I can't even imagine hitting a person with my car and I can't understand why someone would put their own life at stake by even riding a bike on a such a dangerous road. There a just some places that certain things don't belong no matter what the law says. Safety for all should come first.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:15 PM
 
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I am sure they pay vehicle taxes. Not all cycle riders depend solely on bikes. In fact, most of them take their bikes out to the hill country using a vehicle.

If they dont pay vehicle taxes on it, then it shouldn't be ridden on the road. No shoulder=only road.

Unfortunately, the small towns see them as revenue in terms of spending money in their resturants and stores. Not as a moving road OBSTACLE.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Boerne area
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The 3 foot law did not pass.

Cyclists pay taxes on the motorized vehicles they own. I have no problem with a law that says cyclists register and pay taxes on bikes, but this is not a popular opinion.

I would not ride on a 70mph road with no shoulder, although I've been on charity rides where the route took us over roads like that. I would not ride by myself on those roads. However, I do ride on country roads with speed limits of 35-45 mph, where car traffic is light to minimal.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:23 PM
 
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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Bo, he was subsequently charged IIRC - seems he was on a cell phone at the time of the accident.

Wait - that was BEFORE the cell phone laws that were passed....oh, that's right - they ALREADY had a law in place that would cover it. Geez - who woulda thought they'd waste time passing ANOTHER law just to say they "did something"!???<sarcasm ON>
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Old 03-28-2011, 04:18 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Cyclists pay taxes on the motorized vehicles they own. I have no problem with a law that says cyclists register and pay taxes on bikes, but this is not a popular opinion.
i often wonder how something like that would work though. cyclists don't require a license or to be a certain age to ride. i rode my bike to school and required functions since i was very young. roads were wide enough and most had bikelanes that didn't stop abruptly, etc, and i don't recall there being a fuss about this being so without a tax on cyclists for having bike-accessible roads. then again, i'm sure that most roads were planned that way anyway, which sa does not seem to do. if there were a bike tax, how would a 12 year old riding to school pay it? is it something that would fall on the parents, or the school? (do kids even ride their bikes to school anymore?)

though i am speaking from my experience in my hometown, not in texas, so i am not sure how much this is applicable. but i'm genuinely curious. road conditions are lousy enough for regular vehicles in this city, how some folks BIKE on them is beyond me.

Last edited by GlorifiedMalcontent; 03-28-2011 at 04:37 PM.. Reason: sorry, thought this was a san antonio post, not texas
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