Why is Waco hated so much? (Pecos, West: safe, Mexican, free)

[Canine*Castle]

Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady

Canine Castle, I'm a preacher's daughter (Methodist) from East Texas. I was taking dancing lessons by age 9, in East Texas, in the 1950's.

Texas is not the south, by the way. It's Texas - there IS a difference.

The point? I was talking about Baptists and belonging to a Baptist church in California where we were "allowed" to dance. Our preacher would even play the boogie-woogie on the piano. Therefore, I mentioned possibly it only happened with the Baptists in the south.

No two ways about it, Texas may be Texas in some eyes, but it's still a southern state in our union. If you want it to be separate from the U.S., go for it and see if it can be done. It would please so many.

[jluke65780]

Originally Posted by allamericantx

it took 151 years. yikes. well, guys, there you have it. 151 years of thinking does not wash away over night. I'm glad, for sure, to see that Waco and Baylor are showing true signs of progress. seriously. very good. you can dance without being killed for doing so. great.

hey, so, being that the Baptist church is becoming so "open minded", why did I attend a Baptist service here in Austin not too long ago where I was informed by the pastor of the church that this specific church had been "cut off" of the National Baptist family of church congregations? - in other words, not recognized by the National Baptist Church organization - due to the fact this particular church opened its arms and congregation to extend a welcome to gays to attend and participate? you know, like come to know the Lord? and they got cut off for being so, um, Christ-like?

forget that the dancing ban at Baylor ended 12 years ago, what's up with this "spiritual self righteousness"? what's so Godly about that? since when did our churches become mere social functions with a red velvet rope to decide who was "godly enough" to enter? absolutely unacceptable.

please explain what is so 'christ like' about that? is that, too, gonna take 151 years to become truly Godly people? seriously, this religiosity crap has so, so over stayed its welcome. I know Athiests who act more Christian than most people who dare call themselves Christians. what the heck is that all about?!

I get so sick of hearing crap like this. Waco has bad history,and I'm sorry but that's in the past. You people always bring up religion; what's wrong with being religious? I swear athiests are the most judgemental people ever,but always complain about someone shoving their beliefs down there throats!

Btw that's Austin, this is Waco.

[TexasHorseLady]

There's nothing wrong with being religious. But that's not what I was talking about, I was talking about a particular attitude that was draped in the trappings of religion, something very, very different. (One only has to read what Christ had to say versus what Saul/Paul had to say to see the difference.)

You're also making a big assumption about who's an atheist and who isn't.

My point is that there is a history, and like it or not, that history has to be lived down, and that takes time. Even if Waco is not what it was before, it will take time for its new reputation to be built, just as it did for its old one to be. Is that really so hard to understand, even if you don't like it.


You asked a question. You should be prepared to hear answers, even if you don't like them.

No two ways about it, Texas may be Texas in some eyes, but it's still a southern state in our union. If you want it to be separate from the U.S., go for it and see if it can be done. It would please so many.

Canine Castle, you seem to be very bitter. You're also wrong about Texas being the South, although we did join with the south in the War Between the States. But this is a good example for my point regarding Waco. That war was over 150 years ago, and Canine Castle is still fighting it, evidently.

[PanTerra]

Some of my fondest memories are from my time at Baylor. I also worked at Padgitt's on Franklin, while going to school. This was back when Leslie's Chicken Shack was open, best greasy fried chicked served by these women that looked like they were right out of Mel's Diner. Yeah, back when there was no dancing on campus, it is not like there was a place for it on campus. We went other places. We thought we were so sneaky, keeping beer in our little fridges in our grad offices, until a friend in the chemistry department told me, "that's nothing, we make our own booze in the chemistry department. hehehe. Y'all know why Baptists don't make love standing up? Because it just might lead to dancing.

[Canine*Castle]

Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady

No two ways about it, Texas may be Texas in some eyes, but it's still a southern state in our union. If you want it to be separate from the U.S., go for it and see if it can be done. It would please so many.

Canine Castle, you seem to be very bitter. You're also wrong about Texas being the South, although we did join with the south in the War Between the States. But this is a good example for my point regarding Waco. That war was over 150 years ago, and Canine Castle is still fighting it, evidently.

No, I'm not bitter and definitely not fighting a war. I still have opinions and find some statements so corny and humorous. With all due respect, most Texans consider themselves southerners. I've never heard a Texan refer to himself or herself as a northerner, westerner, or easterner, hence I believe Texas is a southern state, not deep south, but definitely southern. I believe the census bureau concurs with what, I guess, is my opinion.

[wade_word]

Originally Posted by PanTerra

Some of my fondest memories are from my time at Baylor. I also worked at Padgitt's on Franklin, while going to school. This was back when Leslie's Chicken Shack was open, best greasy fried chicked served by these women that looked like they were right out of Mel's Diner. Yeah, back when there was no dancing on campus, it is not like there was a place for it on campus. We went other places. We thought we were so sneaky, keeping beer in our little fridges in our grad offices, until a friend in the chemistry department told me, "that's nothing, we make our own booze in the chemistry department. hehehe. Y'all know why Baptists don't make love standing up? Because it just might lead to dancing.

LMFAO. Everybody dances (although, for some, not very well). Many people drink. People in Waco have too much time on their hands, don't they? They need to get a grip on reality. This is the 2000s, people, not caveman times.

[TexasHorseLady]

Canine Castle, I'm one Texan (at least fourth generation through all four grandparents - we were here when Texas was born) who doesn't consider herself a Southerner, but, rather, a Texan.

We don't fit neatly into those little boxes of the census bureau - if we were that kind of people, we'd still be in all the places our ancestors came from.

[Canine*Castle]

Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady

Canine Castle, I'm one Texan (at least fourth generation through all four grandparents - we were here when Texas was born) who doesn't consider herself a Southerner, but, rather, a Texan.

We don't fit neatly into those little boxes of the census bureau - if we were that kind of people, we'd still be in all the places our ancestors came from.

I agree; a Texan is a Texan but most (not all, obviously) consider themselves southerners as well. Just ask TexReb.

[JamesAbilene]

I have pointed out in other posts, parts of Texas (the Panhandle) are more like the midwest--politically, socially. Parts of Texas (far West Texas) are more like Mexico. Parts of Texas (West Texas) are more like the Southwest. Parts of Texas (East and Southeast) are more like the South. We have all of these cultures blending and meeting. The best thing to call us is just Texans. "Southerners" doesn't fit the Panhandle or West Texas. "Southwesterners" doesn't fit East Texas, etc., etc., etc.

[love roses]

I have to agree with JamesAbilene. All I have to do is look at my grandparents and even my one set of great grandparents I had the privelidge (sp) to know. My dads father was born in Canada, but moved to Texas as a kid. This was during the depression and he lied about his age and joined a work camp in the SW U.S. He spent many years working in West Texas and he and my grandmother lived all around there. They eventually settled in Pleasanton, and finally Tyler. He never struck me as a typical "Southerner" even though he claimed Texas as home. My grandmother on the other hand came from East Texas and her family before that was from Mississippi, so she did remind me of a typical Southern Type. My moms parents and grandparents are from South Texas (Corpus, Sinton, Floresville, etc..). My great grandparents were children of German Immigrants and they had totally different blends of customs than my dads parents. They mixed German and Mexican customs together, hence at Christmas and other holidays the Tamales and such came into play along with german cookies, etc...