05-13-2011, 04:49 PM
Location: Boerne area
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Well, stillkit, that is one rumor rampant at TAMU and he would be most welcome! But all indications are that he wants to retire to his home in Washington State.
05-13-2011, 09:28 PM
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Come on. McKinney was forced out to create a job slot for Bob Gates.
I really hope this is true, but it is looking very unlikely.
05-14-2011, 01:50 AM
Location: Funky Town, Texas
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Spacecityroller
Why would they sit there and tell that fib. UH is not a tier 1 school its vying for tier 1 status along with about 5 other Texas schools.
05-14-2011, 02:02 AM
Location: Funky Town, Texas
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I personally think all these schools classifications are just a bunch of b.s.
05-14-2011, 09:09 AM
Location: ITL (Houston)
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kdogg817
Why would they sit there and tell that fib. UH is not a tier 1 school its vying for tier 1 status along with about 5 other Texas schools.
Uh, I don't know, maybe because the
Carnegie Foundation moved Houston up to its highest ranking, tier one. That could be it...
05-14-2011, 09:47 AM
Location: Houston
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Uh, I don't know, maybe because the Carnegie Foundation moved Houston up to its highest ranking, tier one. That could be it...
...and it means nothing. Notwithstanding that it is a completely arbitrary designation - UH is not even remotely close to competing with the likes of UT or A&M. UH doesn't even match up favorably with other Tier 1 contenders.
there are a hundred different ways to compare them, but let's look at just two of the most important: US News and World Report undergrad rankings (mostly a measure of undergrad student quality) and research expenditures.
UT: #45
A&M: #63
UTD: #143
TTU: #159
UH: not ranked in the top 191
It's not that UH is a major research institution, either. Research expenditures for 2009:
A&M: $581 million
UT: $535 million
TTU: $88 million
UTD: $82 million
UH: $81 million
In fact UT Dallas and Texas tech both should probably be "Tier 1" before UH, given that things like average SAT/ACT scores and graduation rates at UH are significantly lower than at UTD and TTU.
05-14-2011, 09:55 AM
Location: ITL (Houston)
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jr1038
...and it means nothing. Notwithstanding that it is a completely arbitrary designation - UH is not even remotely close to competing with the likes of UT or A&M. UH doesn't even match up favorably with other Tier 1 contenders.In fact UT Dallas and Texas tech both should probably be "Tier 1" before UH, given that things like average SAT/ACT scores and graduation rates at UH are significantly lower than at UTD and TTU.
Disagree here, especially considering UH's grad programs are better than these two. US News has gotten some heat for the way they do their rankings though, so I would definitely NOT call them the best. The universities rank each other on US News. And really, it's the state of Texas' fault for not placing a higher priority in education. California kicks Texas' butt in every which way, as far as education goes (they have higher SAT scores for high school students and their universities are much, MUCH, better overall).
05-14-2011, 11:24 AM
Location: Houston
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Scarface713
Disagree here, especially considering UH's grad programs are better than these two . US News has gotten some heat for the way they do their rankings though, so I would definitely NOT call them the best. The universities rank each other on US News. And really, it's the state of Texas' fault for not placing a higher priority in education. California kicks Texas' butt in every which way, as far as education goes (they have higher SAT scores for high school students and their universities are much, MUCH, better overall).
Looks like UTD has an advantage to me...
US News 2011 overall engineering rankings:
UTD - #70
UH - #78
TTU - #95
MBA:
UTD - #40
UH - #94
TTU - not ranked
Law:
UTD - no program
UH - #56
TTU - #115
Computer Science:
UTD - #79
UH - #110
TTU - #121
Biological/biomedical sciences:
UTD - #130
UH - #160
TTU - #195
The universities rank each other based on prestige, and that is only a fraction of the overall ranking. By far the largest component of the ranking are wholly objective student body quality measures like SAT scores, graduation rates, retention rates, etc., which is why UH fares so poorly (its 6-year graduation rate is less than half - yes,
HALF - that of UT's). No ranking system is without its flaws but US News is undeniably the "crown jewel" of university rankings. Most other ranking systems like Forbes and Washington Monthly - which include totally irrelevant information like enrollment in the Peace Corps and student debt load - are an utter joke compared to US News, period.
What does California have to do with this, anyway? We are talking about Texas universities here, not California's.
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