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Old 07-12-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Rhody
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Does Texas have subsidized Section 8 housing? I work in the field in another state and am curious if this also exists in Texas?

 
Old 07-12-2011, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Austin
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yes.
 
Old 07-12-2011, 07:45 PM
 
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sadly

it should be one of the first things to be done away with
 
Old 07-13-2011, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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Default Thinks Section 8 should be done away with.

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sadly

it should be one of the first things to be done away with
I don't know if you have a grown daughter or any grandchildren but let's just pretend that you do. You have this daughter and she's married and has 3 kids - your beloved little grandchildren - and she's never gone to college or trade school but married the "love of her life" quite young. Well, suddenly "LOHL" decides he doesn't like all these responsibilities and hi-tails it to Alaska without telling her and finds a cash job under the radar (to avoid divorce and child-support payments). She get's her house foreclosed on quickly because she has only been able to get a minimum wage job with no benefits and most of that is eaten up by child-care expenses. She does however, make so little that she qualifies for Section 8 Housing.

So , given that scenario (which happens every day by the way), do you STILL believe in abolishing Section 8?

If so, answer me this: Will you a. take in her and her 3 small children to share your 1-bedroom apartment?

b. Rent or buy a large 4 bedroom house so you have your privacy back at your own expense (all her wages barely by the kids food, clothing, and day care)?

c. Help her get her own large apartment or house and pay her rent?


You still sure you want to abolish Section 8?
 
Old 07-13-2011, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
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That person and their kids should not be the responsibility of the state or its taxpayers.

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I don't know if you have a grown daughter or any grandchildren but let's just pretend that you do. You have this daughter and she's married and has 3 kids - your beloved little grandchildren - and she's never gone to college or trade school but married the "love of her life" quite young. Well, suddenly "LOHL" decides he doesn't like all these responsibilities and hi-tails it to Alaska without telling her and finds a cash job under the radar (to avoid divorce and child-support payments). She get's her house foreclosed on quickly because she has only been able to get a minimum wage job with no benefits and most of that is eaten up by child-care expenses. She does however, make so little that she qualifies for Section 8 Housing.

So , given that scenario (which happens every day by the way), do you STILL believe in abolishing Section 8?

If so, answer me this: Will you a. take in her and her 3 small children to share your 1-bedroom apartment?

b. Rent or buy a large 4 bedroom house so you have your privacy back at your own expense (all her wages barely by the kids food, clothing, and day care)?

c. Help her get her own large apartment or house and pay her rent?


You still sure you want to abolish Section 8?
 
Old 07-13-2011, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Austin
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You still sure you want to abolish Section 8?
I understand your scenario, but many people live on Sec 8 and take advantage. If there was a time limit placed on Sec 8 to help someone like this get on their feet, that would be better, but to live years and years like this is ridiculous. They made their bed...
 
Old 07-13-2011, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Down the road a bit
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I don't know if you have a grown daughter or any grandchildren but let's just pretend that you do. You have this daughter and she's married and has 3 kids - your beloved little grandchildren - and she's never gone to college or trade school but married the "love of her life" quite young. Well, suddenly "LOHL" decides he doesn't like all these responsibilities and hi-tails it to Alaska without telling her and finds a cash job under the radar (to avoid divorce and child-support payments). She get's her house foreclosed on quickly because she has only been able to get a minimum wage job with no benefits and most of that is eaten up by child-care expenses. She does however, make so little that she qualifies for Section 8 Housing.

So , given that scenario (which happens every day by the way), do you STILL believe in abolishing Section 8?

If so, answer me this: Will you a. take in her and her 3 small children to share your 1-bedroom apartment?

b. Rent or buy a large 4 bedroom house so you have your privacy back at your own expense (all her wages barely by the kids food, clothing, and day care)?

c. Help her get her own large apartment or house and pay her rent?


You still sure you want to abolish Section 8?
Hmm......I envision a situation where a daughter is stricken with autoimmune arthritis as a young child and the related health problems progress and worsen each year. Still, daughter graduated college with honors in 3.5 years instead of four, and worked in her industry briefly. She'd already had to change her goals because her body would not comply. And after working in her appointed industry, her body again could not comply with this compromise profession. She took a different route because she desperately needed medical benefits, found a terrific laid-back job with great benefits. Alas, the body still would not comply. She had to quit work altogether, and is continuing her medical insurance under COBRA.

Her obvious option would be to go on permanent disability (which she would qualify for). Instead, she chooses to view herself differently and believe that she has the power to persevere. Her fourth career option will be a small-scale home business that will provide a bit of income and creative outlet. She is extremely fortunate to have a fiance who has goals and drive and is willing to see her through the ups and downs and joys of her life!

In the meantime, her parents make financial sacrifices and provide the necessary funds for medical insurance, and endless copays for very expensive hospital-administered medication. As we've told her time and again, she did not ask for this in life, and this is what family does.
 
Old 07-13-2011, 02:47 PM
 
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I don't know if you have a grown daughter or any grandchildren but let's just pretend that you do. You have this daughter and she's married and has 3 kids - your beloved little grandchildren - and she's never gone to college or trade school but married the "love of her life" quite young. Well, suddenly "LOHL" decides he doesn't like all these responsibilities and hi-tails it to Alaska without telling her and finds a cash job under the radar (to avoid divorce and child-support payments). She get's her house foreclosed on quickly because she has only been able to get a minimum wage job with no benefits and most of that is eaten up by child-care expenses. She does however, make so little that she qualifies for Section 8 Housing.

So , given that scenario (which happens every day by the way), do you STILL believe in abolishing Section 8?

If so, answer me this: Will you a. take in her and her 3 small children to share your 1-bedroom apartment?

b. Rent or buy a large 4 bedroom house so you have your privacy back at your own expense (all her wages barely by the kids food, clothing, and day care)?

c. Help her get her own large apartment or house and pay her rent?


You still sure you want to abolish Section 8?
of course I still do.....the person in this scenario is the last person on earth that needs the freedom and independence to choose where they live........they have already shown they are not capable of choosing a proper breeding partner (proper breeding partners stick around for the child raising not just the child making) and she has also shown that she is not capable of understanding the responsibility that comes with MAKING THREE KIDS

this is the exact person that IF they need to live on the backs of the government and everyone else they should live in strictly controlled, access secured, visitor limited, random drug and alcohol testing, government facilities with 24X security, a great deal of limits on who can come and go and when they can come and go, who can be on the property, and when

they don't need to be given the freedom to randomly pick where THEY WANT TO live because we can already see the last time they were given the freedom to control their lives they rushed off and had way too many kids, way too soon, with way too little set aside, with a loser they probably knew way to little about to marry much less breed with

giving them others money and setting them wild back into society with society's money is the last thing that needs to "be done for" this person

taking control of THEIR life, taking control of what they are allowed to spend money on, and taking control of when and where THEY are allowed to run wild is the answer.......except for those that think taking control of someone else's money and giving it to her with little or no restrictions is the answer........but alas all too often we see the results of this is fun babies number 4 and 5 from dead beat baby daddy number 2 or maybe even dead beat baby daddy numbers 2 and 3

no thank you on giving this person the freedom to do anything with OTHERS MONEY........yes to putting a great deal of control on the place, way, and how someone like this can live their life

and also just to be VERY CLEAR......yes to also taking as much as is needed up to and including 100% of the earnings of the "father" in this case as well and if the "father" breeds again while not paying or behind on child support.......yes to taking control of his life as well, subjecting him to government provided labor jobs after his regular job to cover his government benefits and yes to random drug and alcohol testing as well and possibly yes to putting him in a controlled living situation until such time as he is able to provide for all his off spring first and foremost and then himself

as soon as we STOP things like section 8 where idiots that have made a lifetime of poor choices are still allowed to move into wherever they want to and trash nice areas and things like cash benefit cards that give idiots the freedom to choose what they will waste others money on and the sooner we START to put the same type of controls on those that take from the tax payer instead of trying to control the income of tax payers the sooner we will see a lot of people decide that living off the government and others money is no longer fun or compatible with their lifestyle choices

and most of all the person in your situation is the LAST person that should get a tax rebate in the form of others money over and above what they "paid" (you don't pay taxes when you get all you paid + more back in a refund) and instead this person should get ZERO back from the government including what they may have paid in and possibly they should have MORE of their income taken from them and returned later to them with government restrictions

if the "poor" and their "advocates" think it is such a good idea for the government to start taking huge chunks of everyone's income and then giving it back out how they see fit with no restrictions......my idea is lets start by taking as much as we possibly can take from the "poor's" income and giving it back to them with tight government controls........and I am quite positive that the "poor" will suddenly find the idea of government income confiscation and redistribution as not that exciting

but of course when you take someone else's money and dole it out to the known irresponsible with little or no restrictions there is not a chance in hell those parasites will ever think that is a bad thing or look to get off the benefits wagon
 
Old 07-14-2011, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Wylie, Texas
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of course I still do.....the person in this scenario is the last person on earth that needs the freedom and independence to choose where they live........they have already shown they are not capable of choosing a proper breeding partner (proper breeding partners stick around for the child raising not just the child making) and she has also shown that she is not capable of understanding the responsibility that comes with MAKING THREE KIDS

this is the exact person that IF they need to live on the backs of the government and everyone else they should live in strictly controlled, access secured, visitor limited, random drug and alcohol testing, government facilities with 24X security, a great deal of limits on who can come and go and when they can come and go, who can be on the property, and when

they don't need to be given the freedom to randomly pick where THEY WANT TO live because we can already see the last time they were given the freedom to control their lives they rushed off and had way too many kids, way too soon, with way too little set aside, with a loser they probably knew way to little about to marry much less breed with

giving them others money and setting them wild back into society with society's money is the last thing that needs to "be done for" this person

taking control of THEIR life, taking control of what they are allowed to spend money on, and taking control of when and where THEY are allowed to run wild is the answer.......except for those that think taking control of someone else's money and giving it to her with little or no restrictions is the answer........but alas all too often we see the results of this is fun babies number 4 and 5 from dead beat baby daddy number 2 or maybe even dead beat baby daddy numbers 2 and 3

no thank you on giving this person the freedom to do anything with OTHERS MONEY........yes to putting a great deal of control on the place, way, and how someone like this can live their life

and also just to be VERY CLEAR......yes to also taking as much as is needed up to and including 100% of the earnings of the "father" in this case as well and if the "father" breeds again while not paying or behind on child support.......yes to taking control of his life as well, subjecting him to government provided labor jobs after his regular job to cover his government benefits and yes to random drug and alcohol testing as well and possibly yes to putting him in a controlled living situation until such time as he is able to provide for all his off spring first and foremost and then himself

as soon as we STOP things like section 8 where idiots that have made a lifetime of poor choices are still allowed to move into wherever they want to and trash nice areas and things like cash benefit cards that give idiots the freedom to choose what they will waste others money on and the sooner we START to put the same type of controls on those that take from the tax payer instead of trying to control the income of tax payers the sooner we will see a lot of people decide that living off the government and others money is no longer fun or compatible with their lifestyle choices

and most of all the person in your situation is the LAST person that should get a tax rebate in the form of others money over and above what they "paid" (you don't pay taxes when you get all you paid + more back in a refund) and instead this person should get ZERO back from the government including what they may have paid in and possibly they should have MORE of their income taken from them and returned later to them with government restrictions

if the "poor" and their "advocates" think it is such a good idea for the government to start taking huge chunks of everyone's income and then giving it back out how they see fit with no restrictions......my idea is lets start by taking as much as we possibly can take from the "poor's" income and giving it back to them with tight government controls........and I am quite positive that the "poor" will suddenly find the idea of government income confiscation and redistribution as not that exciting

but of course when you take someone else's money and dole it out to the known irresponsible with little or no restrictions there is not a chance in hell those parasites will ever think that is a bad thing or look to get off the benefits wagon

While I agree with most of what you say...the "poor choices" as regards marriage partners...I dont think that's quite as easy to paint...yeah some women (and men for that matter) make poor choices in mates...but there are a sizeable chunk who make the best decision they could and due to reasons to do with the spouse rather than them, the relationship breaks down...it always takes two to tango, so if one decides later on that he/she is not willing to play his/her role then the marriage goes kaput. If I read the other guy correctly, the lady in question was actually married, and had the three kids by this guy. It would be a different story if she was unmarried, and had 3 kids by three different guys, so she wasnt just out breeding wildly, she was being responsible and doing the right thing.

So punishing her for her spouse's poor choices doesnt seem fair, but I do agree with the rest of what you say...monitoring the poor while on welfare seems logical.
 
Old 07-14-2011, 06:51 PM
 
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again this is the problem when government gives something away......it either comes with ZERO accountability or it comes with a great deal of accountability......here in the USA we have decided the ZERO accountability route "works" for us

well actually it does not "work" for us if US is actually those that pay taxes.....it only works for those that sponge off the system and those that use their political position to reward those sponges

for every hypothetical scenario one can make up where the person made a lot of bad choices, but the are trying I can give dozens of examples like the 30 yo "mom" of two that is UNEMPLOYED and yet on spring break in Florida......and when her Burger King order is wrong she shows her appreciation to the Burger King workers that work to pay for her family and spring break and to make her food be becoming a wild violent savage and destroying the restaurant and doing thousands of dollars worth of damage.......all while leaving her kids unaccounted for until the hand cuffs were on

or I can provide this inspirational link from just today right in the new American cesspool of entitlement dallas, Texas

Hundreds scramble for Dallas County rental vouchers | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth

look at those savages, FIVE THOUSAND OF THEM...........the vast majority are morbidly obese, I see ZERO people that are starving.......you will notice where the VAST MAJORITY of them DROVE THERE IN A CAR........you will notice that they had all the time in the world at TWO AM IN THE MORNING to be doing nothing buy laying about waiting for another free government handout......oh yea and of course their fat, entitled, ignorant, savage, asses are complaining because they could not PARK CLOSER, or no one was there to control their violence to get something FREE

most if not all of them look like they have new or relatively new clothing, huge numbers of them were plenty capable to bolt from their CAR at 5am and RUN as FAST AS THEY CAN for something FREE from the government.......try getting ANY of them to run for a job application, for a job, to pick up the trash their kids just tossed on the ground, or to do ANYTHING that is beneficial to society......much less try and get them off the couch, sober, and willing to actually do any of that at 2AM in the morning

these are they types of wild, out of control, TRASH that RUINS neighborhoods with section 8, because when they are not lining up, getting violent for "free" from the government, and abusing anyone and everyone around them because of the inconvenience of having to actually "put out effort" for something they are "entitled" to......they are laying about, running wild in, stealing from, and generally trashing nice neighborhoods all around the city

please don't come in here and try to tell me that people that get violent and out of control for a free handout (much less complain about the set up) are going to control themselves, their kids, and their animal friends when they are living in "their house" paid for by EVERYONE ELSE....when there is no security around anywhere in sight

clearly the vast majority of them are not able to control their eating habits, their diet, the eating habits and diets of their kids, their sense of entitlement, their willingness to use violence against others to get something handed to them, their consumer goods and clothing purchases, their overall finances, or really anything other than get down there and get violent to get it for free....then ***** because it took too much effort.....or all the savages were acting like savages....I would imagine if you look at their education levels, the education levels of their dependents (you really don't have dependents when you yourself are dependent on the government), and the educational performance of their dependents you would see the same underwhelming results, the same bad choices, and the same sense of entitlement and willingness to get violent to get something or tear something apart

again the person in the hypothetical scenario above should be the FIRST person that is GLAD for government control of the housing she is living in......because it means she will not be subjected to putting up with the people in that above link while she works hard to get off of the government dole.......and she should realize that without government control and strict limits she will be living in this

Police, firefighters shot with fireworks at Taft Homes 'riot' - Peoria, IL - pjstar.com

and yes this is about the third or fourth year in a row that a large "pride" of welfare trash has caused a disturbance and then shot fireworks at the police....if they have money for fireworks they are not needy are they.....if they have time to be up and out late shooting fireworks they are not needy are they, if they want to abuse the police and commit multiple felonies while putting the police and the other welfare trash around them in danger they are criminals not needy

these "people" never should have had the opportunity to buy fireworks.....they should not have had the "free" cash to do so, they should not have had the freedom to get to the fireworks stand, they should not have been able to bring fireworks back onto public housing property, they should have been punished accordingly when they tried, they should not have had the ability to have friends over for a holiday party (holidays are for those that pay their own way), they should not have been allowed to be up this late, they should not have been allowed to congregate in large numbers (it is quiet time here in the public housing no parties and holiday hours here) and of course they should have been shot with beanbags, rock salt, and even light bird shot when the police arrived and they shot fireworks at any of them

don;t want to get some salt or pellets in your ass.....then don't join the illegal riot in public housing fool with all the other trash that is "ruining" the "nice" place where you are trying to "get ahead"

of course the reality is much different....there was no control what so ever on these savages and the results were destroyed public property, the safety of first responders put in jeopardy, and all the "good" "people" you are going to claim live in this public housing......well....."nun ub dem dint seez nuffin" when it comes to pointing out who was responsible for it......which is why ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEM PERIOD should be under tight government controls and restrictions.......so that there is no doubt who did what, when it was done, and most importantly who will be held responsible and removed from public housing and possibly incarcerated because of it

and there will be no ability to buy fireworks, shoot fireworks, gather a large crowd, and especially use the above to destroy public property and assault the police and fireman

it is bad enough we hand it to them.....now we have to battle them to keep them from destroying it and beating each other MORE senseless
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