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Unread 09-08-2011, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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If you cant beat them join them. I could eat more Chinese food and Tsingtao beer isn't bad.
Sadly, it is true, with the largest consumer society in the world coming out of China, the most successful businesses in Texas will probably be those who learn to provide things they need.

However, I understand they are having their own economic problems so I'm uncertain how long their current growth rate will last.
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Unread 09-08-2011, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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What's fiction about what I'm talking about?
This, its all fiction...

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Anybody ever see Red Dawn? there was a map that the girls' old dad had that showed "Free America" in the movie, that area was mostly Texas.

If Red Dawn happened and the Chinese showed up and said "Forget the money, we want your land America!" and started tryna to prepare to come over here and take it. then what Texas?
What if?
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Unread 09-08-2011, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Sadly, it is true, with the largest consumer society in the world coming out of China, the most successful businesses in Texas will probably be those who learn to provide things they need.

However, I understand they are having their own economic problems so I'm uncertain how long their current growth rate will last.
If the US collapsed, then China would quickly follow.
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Unread 09-08-2011, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Greater Seattle, WA Metro Area
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I think addressing the water supply issue would be tantamount to TX surviving a split from the US. This TIME magazine article from July 13, 1953 is very interesting to read in light of the past few years. Water resources are still an issue to be dealt with.

AGRICULTURE: Water for Texas - TIME

Most Texans I know are Texas proud but I don't know a one of them that wishes for emancipation from the US. Local, state and world economies are interwoven and often for a reason. It's a symbiotic relationship in most cases.
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Unread 09-08-2011, 04:29 PM
 
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If the US collapsed, then China would quickly follow.
Well, if the US collapsed and China collapsed then it's probably safe to say that many other economies would also go down tubes as well (members of the Eurozone for instance). We live in one big tangled mess of a global economy now where the ramifications of failure in one country can have a massive domino effect on others.
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Unread 09-08-2011, 04:40 PM
 
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I think addressing the water supply issue would be tantamount to TX surviving a split from the US. This TIME magazine article from July 13, 1953 is very interesting to read in light of the past few years. Water resources are still an issue to be dealt with.

AGRICULTURE: Water for Texas - TIME

Most Texans I know are Texas proud but I don't know a one of them that wishes for emancipation from the US. Local, state and world economies are interwoven and often for a reason. It's a symbiotic relationship in most cases.
Some enterprising folks will just have to come up with more affordable/efficient desalination technologies and we can then draw our water directly from the gulf. Can't have the large oil companies have all the fun (unless they're the ones providing the desalination of course).
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Unread 09-08-2011, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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We are certainly fighting tens of thousands of acres of fires on our own.
It is easy to feel alone and abandoned when one is in the midst of a disastrous situation. But its not true that we are either alone or abandoned.

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Wildfire aid from Abilene on the way » Abilene Reporter-News

J Sanders, spokesman for the Abilene Fire Department, said four local firefighters and two AFD vehicles — a brush truck and a pickup — had been sent to work with the Texas Forest Service in battling the fires.
"Back when all these fires started breaking out around here, about 50 Abilene firefighters signed up with the Texas Forest Service to be part of a strike force if they were needed," Sanders said. "On Saturday night, we got the call, and (Deputy) Chief Jim Frazier made the decision about what to send."
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Texas drought shows need for firefighters - Houston Chronicle
Inside the school, weary soot-covered firefighters tried to unwind over brisket in the school cafeteria. They started arriving Monday from Crosby, Tarkington, Galveston and other volunteer fire departments, including units from Harris County communities.
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Texas pleads for help as fires sear state - latimes.com
President Obama called Perry to assure the governor that requests for additional assistance would be quickly assessed, the White House said. Officials with the Federal Emergency Management Agency were in Texas preparing financial assessments to help pay the cost of fighting the fires.
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Austin news, sports, weather, Longhorns, business | Statesman.com
BASTROP — David Avary and Ryan Smith said they drove all the way from Odessa to help, only to be sent home.
Don Perry came in from San Antonio, with the same result. Days later, he’s still steaming.
The three firefighters were among dozens, perhaps hundreds, who answered the call for volunteers to help battle Texas’ worst wildfire in decades — and went home empty-handed and, in many cases, unhappy.
In what may be the biggest public glitch so far in the massive emergency effort, state and local officials today for the first time detailed why they turned away the help as the fires raged.
“We may have had some of the world’s finest firefighters showing up, but if they weren’t properly qualified or trained and had no equipment, we had no choice,” said Mike Fisher, Bastrop County’s emergency management director.


Firefighters were brought in from across Texas and the nation — some U.S. Forest Service teams came in from as far away as Northern California, officials said — and all were organized and sent to specific areas based on their training and equipment, Fisher said.
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http://www.lewisvilleleader.com/articles/2011/09/08/plano_star-courier/news/8857.txtWith (broken link) some of the most severe fires to ever hit the state burning out of control, a group of Plano firefighters is doing its part to help douse the flames. An engine crew from the newly opened Fire Station No. 13 deployed last Thursday. The four-person operation is currently fighting the Bastrop fire, its third fire in the past week.

Four Plano firefighters, plus an engine and water tender, left and went to the Possum Kingdom area to assist with the 101 Ranch fire. When that fire was contained, the team went to Austin and assisted with the Steiner Ranch fire near Lake Travis. Then, on Monday, the task force was moved to Bastrop and assist with the fire that some are calling the worst in state history.
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From Odessa: Local firefighters to aid Bastrop fires | fire, texas, bastrop - Odessa American Online (http://www.oaoa.com/news/fire-71638-texas-bastrop.html - broken link)

The Bastrop fire is just one of 10 large fires burning more than 100 acres in timber in Texas, the Texas Forest Service said. Texas Forest Service responded to 22 new wildfires since Monday. In the past seven days, the service responded to 181 fires that have burned 118,413 acres.

Though pleas for aid were broadcast through the media, Odessa FD Assistant Fire Chief Stan Tinney said Texas State Emergency Management has not made an official request for help outside the Austin area.

Without a request, Tinney said it’s difficult for outside fire departments to know how many people or what type of fire units to send.

It’s one of the lessons learned from years past,” Tinney said. “We drove down (to a wildfire) with the wrong kind of equipment and were no help to them.”

Ellis said without the request, the volunteer fire department would not have enough money to fund travels to Bastrop. And even with financial support, Ellis said the equipment was too old to travel across the state.

“I’ve had several (firefighters) wanting to go down there, but, truthfully, my trucks won’t make it that far without breaking down,” Ellis said. “All my trucks are so old and tired; my trucks might not make it to the scene. And you can’t afford to strip our area. We have a responsibility to cover our district.”
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With Steiner Ranch aid overflowing, supplies headed to Bastrop, Spicewood
With Steiner Ranch aid overflowing, supplies headed to Bastrop, Spicewood...
At the church, huge stacks of water, pet food, diapers and other supplies covered a small parking lot. Two huge trash bins and several flatbeds were full of trash. And volunteers were trucking supplies to victims of the fires in Bastrop and Spicewood
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Unread 09-08-2011, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Midland/Dallas
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This Texan is headed to Alaska when the SHFT.
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Unread 09-08-2011, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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I'm heading to Australia before the SHTF!
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Unread 09-08-2011, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Austin
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This Texan is headed to Alaska when the SHFT.
Other than being completely on the other side of the climate spectrum, you would be surprised to learn how expensive it is to live there.
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