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Location: Went around the corner & now I'm lost!!!!
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Originally Posted by Philip T
Maybe I missed in here . . . but why does Denton have such low performing public schools?
Talking K - 12.
We would seriously consider setting up business there -- Energy / Engineering / Renewables -- but with poor schools it speaks towards poor community values.
Does Denton want to clean up its local school system?
Why not try Hillsboro, TX? It is position just as Denton is but further south and more dynamic. It has the 'twin' Hwy I-35 merge just like Denton so the positioning of your business will attract both Dallas and Ft Worth employees with the added plus of going opposite of traffic with easy access to Austin, San Antonio and all points south
Why not try Hillsboro, TX? It is position just as Denton is but further south and more dynamic. It has the 'twin' Hwy I-35 merge just like Denton so the positioning of your business will attract both Dallas and Ft Worth employees with the added plus of going opposite of traffic with easy access to Austin, San Antonio and all points south
Might have missed that "schools thing?"
Looks like Hillboro's schools numbers are a little better than Denton -- but is it still not in the lower half of schools in Texas (which is in the lower half of overall schools in the US)?
Seems folks really try hard to not understand playing Dummyland is not a world with a real bright future.
Really, what is up with that?
Folks with brains and money will not tolerate local Dummy Factories for schools.
Location: Went around the corner & now I'm lost!!!!
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Might have missed that "schools thing?"
Looks like Hillboro's schools numbers are a little better than Denton -- but is it still not in the lower half of schools in Texas (which is in the lower half of overall schools in the US)?
Seems folks really try hard to not understand playing Dummyland is not a world with a real bright future.
Really, what is up with that?
Folks with brains and money will not tolerate local Dummy Factories for schools.
Don't know about the schools in those areas but I do know in Arlington there are many private schools for 'such children." Brennam ( I think I am spelling it right) is one for the younger kids. My CPA sent her children there and Oak Ridge is a huge one which I heard is hard to get into unless your child is really intelligent. Maybe Southlake and Colleyville and Trophy Club will suit you best. Those with "brains and money" live in those areas. But remember your child will probably be a full blown drug addict by the age of 10 because of the prescription, meth and other drug use in those area which they try hard to keep undercover. And you will spend all of your "money" and the next 35 to 45 years trying to get them rehabilitated. Good luck to you
Be very careful of what you say about Texans, some are smart and other not so much. You are appearing to be very arrogant to the typical Texan. People can care less about your money or your brains; it you attitude and skills that count down here. I am sure you will be getting a reponse from a few very soon.
Don't know about the schools in those areas but I do know in Arlington there are many private schools for 'such children." Brennam ( I think I am spelling it right) is one for the younger kids. My CPA sent her children there and Oak Ridge is a huge one which I heard is hard to get into unless your child is really intelligent. Maybe Southlake and Colleyville and Trophy Club will suit you best. Those with "brains and money" live in those areas. But remember your child will probably be a full blown drug addict by the age of 10 because of the prescription, meth and other drug use in those area which they try hard to keep undercover. And you will spend all of your "money" and the next 35 to 45 years trying to get them rehabilitated. Good luck to you
So why so much Pride-in-Ignorance when someone tells you the simple truth that Denton, or Hillsboro, or wherever does not have enough quality to the school system to attract businesses to the area?
Is the simple truth that hard to hear?
Really. Why not fix your schools? Do you figure your local kids should be going to low performing schools, or what?
You are the one asking for business to come to your area.
Geeezzz -- where were you heading, anyway? That Hillsboro should be a good business location because of a couple old Highways crossing there?
Like this is 1950 or the 60s or something?
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Be very careful of what you say about Texans, some are smart and other not so much. You are appearing to be very arrogant to the typical Texan. People can care less about your money or your brains; it you attitude and skills that count down here. I am sure you will be getting a reponse from a few very soon.
Sorry but an awful lot of Texas and Texans are figuring this out on their own.
"George Bush" has become more of a Cartoon than an Icon.
Aint much future in the Dumb-as-Dirt routine.
Even skills, as you say, are based in a combination of Knowledge and Experience. Knowledge is not something that just generates itself. It starts with humbling oneself to say the magic words -- I Do Not Know. And then you have to actively and intentionally acquire that knowledge.
Location: Went around the corner & now I'm lost!!!!
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Originally Posted by Philip T
So why so much Pride-in-Ignorance when someone tells you the simple truth that Denton, or Hillsboro, or wherever does not have enough quality to the school system to attract businesses to the area?
Is the simple truth that hard to hear?
Really. Why not fix your schools? Do you figure your local kids should be going to low performing schools, or what?
You are the one asking for business to come to your area.
Geeezzz -- where were you heading, anyway? That Hillsboro should be a good business location because of a couple old Highways crossing there?
Like this is 1950 or the 60s or something?
Sorry but an awful lot of Texas and Texans are figuring this out on their own.
I was actually born and reared in the Midwest
"George Bush" has become more of a Cartoon than an Icon.
Aint much future in the Dumb-as-Dirt routine.
Even skills, as you say, are based in a combination of Knowledge and Experience. Knowledge is not something that just generates itself. It starts with humbling oneself to say the magic words -- I Do Not Know. And then you have to actively and intentionally acquire that knowledge.
But you seem to have a blind spot there?
Why is that? Really asking.
I also was born and reared in the Midwest and at the time schools in (the Midwest) were ranked 13th through 15th in the nation but no longer. Don't know the history of TX. Texas has had their share of "brains and money" with the Raise and Fall of Plano,Texas (that would make a good title for a book) in the late 80s and early 90s. All of Plano's residents thought they were they elite of the metroplex, consisting of mostly Engineers, EET and the like. They looked down on anyone outside of its city limits. The parent drove new BMWs or Lexus and the children drove new foreign cars, the wife stayed at home and did water aerobic with private instructors in the backyard pool, ate out everyday in $$ resturants, etc,etc. The children were in the "best" schools but also druggies and the parent always blamed someone else for the childrens' drug problems, failing to look at themselves for also being a perscription drug abuser themselves and chasing the $$$.
THEN ALL HELL BROKE LOSE for them. Northern Telecom, TI and others began to outsourced to other countries and 99.9% of the arrogant souls lost jobs, homes, cars...everything. It was ALL over the local news. They became the laughing stock of the DWF metroplex. It was soon shown on the news the the MAJORITY of those in Plano were only ONE paycheck from being bankrupt!!! Oh boy, did the people laugh at them even more!!!! It was the most amazing thing to see. They had so many foreclosed homes it was ridiculous. So much so the the city of Plano began to ask those "outsiders" to move there... the people just laughed. and gave them the finger.
So like my mother used to say..."Never critize other people situation because you never know if it will happen to you." And my dad was in the medical field and never looked down on anyone. He would seat and talk to a ignorant drunk on the street for hours and then meet a college professor in the grocery store and devote the same amount of time with him as he did with the drunk. As children we used to get tired of that but now I see his and my mom's action taught us to respect all people regardless of econimc status, race, creed, etc. How did your parents rear you? By the way you talk about people, they seem to have done a poor job or you didn't listen to them.
Is it really just the schools though? Like I pointed out, They're ranked higher than many school districts in the metroplex, including Dallas and Fort Worth's.
For us it is. Not that you want us personally or not, just saying that it is for us, and other folks we know. As near as I can tell you (Denton) "wants" our sort but the schools make it a No-Go.
For example, Denton recently ran an RFP for placing and building Renewables within the City. Wanted it tied into your local grid for Power Purchase and to provide jobs in your community. Sounded fine on the front side.
Would have been some million($) on our side, and as that is what we do, we looked hard at it. BUT it would require opening and operating business operations in Denton. And on the personal side of things we like what we see of Denton. As it turned out we did not want to touch it because it would mean moving there and dealing with the local schools.
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Like I pointed out, They're ranked higher than many school districts in the metroplex, including Dallas and Fort Worth's.
You understand you are comparing Denton to some Really Ugly messes (like Dallas ISD) and saying Denton is not THAT messed up? That you even put Denton in the same bracket might be somewhat telling for yourself? Dallas ISD has almost half the kids drop out.
You follow that I am not trying to put you down in any of this? You asked about Denton and its economy and I am just trying to give you the honest truth, as we see things?
Do not know if you do not understand this, or just want to get by it, but if you do not follow, maybe think of it this way . . .
The US is in the lower tier of Industrial Nations for kids' education. Is that fair?
And Texas is in the lower tier of States with in the United States. Not much argument in that, either?
And (now) Denton is in the lower section of Texas, as far as kids' education. We match on that?
So that piles up to a local "plan" of being Triple Layer Losers. And you wonder why folks with some wits would not want to be part of that? Are you good with that?
When Denton chooses (and it IS a choice) to operate like that, it does not speak well to the local community value system.
Not trying to trash you even a little bit -- but it sounds like you may really not get this, and figured someone should just speak the truth to the matter.
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