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Old 06-05-2012, 06:20 PM
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Originally Posted by OpenD View Post
I agree with the appeal, but at what cost? And who pays for it? A fully burdened ticket cost might be out of reach for average travelers.

Agreed. But they have very different geographic, economic, and political factors to deal with than we do. For one thing they have much closer population centers with much higher density on average than we do. They also have much lower ownership of autos than we do, and a much richer culture of using public transportation.

It's abundantly clear that we have a culture in which independence and freedom are core values, and for rail to successfully compete with cars rail must deliver a coherent value proposition. I'm not sure it does in Texas.

Yup. No question. But it may always be that way unless the rail industry and its supporters can deliver a more compelling argument about why the average person should care.
Actually 60% of Japan drives daily to work or school , mainly in the suburban and rural areas....only the Urban areas use Mass Transit and biking over cars....there highway network is also very big....and expanding there currently building 1,860 new miles of expressway by 2020.... The Japanese are pretty balanced , there culture is = to the Northeastern US... Auto use has been dropping over the past 10 years , while Transit use has been growing since 2000...and now in the Northeast is breaking 1930 records....
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:00 PM
Location: plano
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Rail is the old solution perhaps. For the cost of rail a bus lane can be established on major routes to reduce traffic congestion for megabus. With spreadout residential and business centers in this part of the country a mass trans vehicle which can adjust routes without building rail lines is an advantage and fits our lifestyle. High speed rail has some clear advantages such as speed and I suspect its more energy efficient but at what cost.... it may well be a good solution for any heavily flown route that is under 2 hours in length. So I see both in our future complimenting each other if we apply them to a situation that each fits best
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