Dallas Skyline(WOW)Yes another Dallas to Houston comparison thread! (San Antonio: 2015, buy)

[TheOverdog]

Houston to me seems like a ridiculous place everytime I pass through there due to the huge number of strip clubs in odd places on I45 all the way to Galveston coupled with a lack of zoning rules. "Hey, there's a strip club next to an Applebee's and a Babys R Us?" Who on earth wants that? And it seems equally as spread out and suburban as Dallas.

[jayshoota]

Originally Posted by dallasboi

West Village,St.Thomas,Uptown/Downtown,Deep Ellum,Farmers Market,The cedarsThe Design District and Yes..Oaklawn...these are all within one mile of each other with some overlapping each other.I agreed with stoneclaw because that was HIS opinion and to try and dispute HIS Opinion would be me not practicing what I preach. Of course I disagree with some things he said but overall it was a well rounded fairly unbiased post.

These are what you consider "walkable areas?"

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by jayshoota

These are what you consider "walkable areas?"

Beats anything in Houston.

[jayshoota]

Originally Posted by dallasboi

Beats anything in Houston.

That is your opinion and I have mine. We will just have to agree to disagree.

Just out of curiosity, which of the neighborhoods you listed have you lived in and how often did you walk to the other neighborhoods?

[AdamTx]

I like what you said Stoneclaw, that is a very fair analysis. However, you cannot fairly compare Dallas to Vegas, although I understand what you are saying. At least Vegas has interesting terrain (albeit arrid) surrounding it and proximity to California and Grand Canyon. Those new flashing lights in Dallas are pointing in directions no one really wants to go! haha.

[R1070]

Originally Posted by jayshoota

These are what you consider "walkable areas?"

There is nowhere in Houston like those areas of Dallas in terms of urbanity. The plus side about those Dallas neighborhoods is they flow into one another. I can walk to Uptown, Highland Park or Knox-Henderson from my apartment in Oak Lawn. I love that about Dallas.

There is not reason to disagree with this. Which is a true statement. People cannot let Dallas have anything better than Houston. It becomes quite comical.

[feufoma]

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

Houston to me seems like a ridiculous place everytime I pass through there due to the huge number of strip clubs in odd places on I45 all the way to Galveston coupled with a lack of zoning rules. "Hey, there's a strip club next to an Applebee's and a Babys R Us?" Who on earth wants that? And it seems equally as spread out and suburban as Dallas.

Wow, I guess you really know Houston as you're just passing through! Yeah 45 got away from us I'll give you that but it's ridiculous to say the entire city is ridiculous when you probably haven't actually spent any significant time in the city.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

Houston to me seems like a ridiculous place everytime I pass through there due to the huge number of strip clubs in odd places on I45 all the way to Galveston coupled with a lack of zoning rules. "Hey, there's a strip club next to an Applebee's and a Babys R Us?" Who on earth wants that? And it seems equally as spread out and suburban as Dallas.

Houston is less socially conservative than Dallas & it shows doesn't it?

[stoneclaw]

Originally Posted by jbarn

I am not quite sure when you say that Houston is more unified. To me, Houston is much, much more spread out than Dallas and none of its walkable areas are even remotely close to each other. Therefore, you have a huge area, with some semi-walkable areas mixed into a huge suburban-type environment. One of the benefits of being smaller I guess is that the walkable areas we have in Dallas are in somewhat close proximity to each other, and some are even contiguous.

Houston is more centralized, period. Most of what Houston has to offer is within a 10 minute drive of downtown (except kemah, NASA, and the beaches). Uptown Houston is somewhat how Irving's Las Colinas is to Dallas. But there's more continuity between downtown Houston and Uptown Houston.

True, Dallas is doing better right now with its urban developments than Houston. They are very close in proximity with eachother. But with the exception of Uptown Dallas, everything else has not been around long enough to feel like its really apart of the urban fabric. The Arts Development is so new, it feels sterile and afterthought. I'm sure that will change, but I don't see it happening sooner than 10-15 years.

Your walkable areas will never be connected.

I wouldn't say never but i'm almost inclined to agree with you seeing we can't get the most intregal part rolling to our light rail system: The University Line. But at we have 3 stadiums downtown which will be connected by rail, 1 stadium 6 miles from downtown connected by rail, and a museum district/Medical Center also connected via rail. Houston's rail may be lousy compared to Dallas's but it connects the "nerve centers" of Houston more so.

I am also confused when you say Dallas is devoid of character. I think both cities are quite devoid of character, except for some of the older neighborhoods.

What character would you be referring to that Houston has more of?

Houston is much more international in feel. DFW may have international numbers that are almost equivalent, but Houston's are more concentrated. So that means you get a different array of restaurant, races, and cultures choices throughout the city. As i mentioned before, there's also a very large Louisiana/cajun influence here in Houston. And although people thumb their noses at the beach here, it doesn't change the fact that it's there and adds to a more varying landscape and something else to do. At least you can see a cruise ship or ride a ferry boat to Port Arthur too!

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

Houston to me seems like a ridiculous place everytime I pass through there due to the huge number of strip clubs in odd places on I45 all the way to Galveston coupled with a lack of zoning rules. "Hey, there's a strip club next to an Applebee's and a Babys R Us?" Who on earth wants that? And it seems equally as spread out and suburban as Dallas.

True but 45 is not the only corridor in Houston. Although i do agree that one is a ridiculous mess.

Originally Posted by BigT3x

To me, Houston "feels" like a squalid hellhole.

Turns out, my feelings are worthless. So are yours!

Great.

Good response dude! It made alot of sense and was very worthwhile

stoneclaw/C2H (ComingtoHouston)

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by jayshoota

That is your opinion and I have mine. We will just have to agree to disagree.

Just out of curiosity, which of the neighborhoods you listed have you lived in and how often did you walk to the other neighborhoods?

uhh....I live in Dallas.. Since when do you have to live in a neighborhood to experience it? Even If I lived in Grapevine I would be able to tell you the same thing about those very neighborhoods. And just for the record I work in the tallest building in the entire metroplex(BofA Tower) and this fact alone allows me to be able to REALLY see how connected these areas are from a birds eye view.....And I also live downtown so I experience it first hand on the weekends. Have you lived in every neighborhood in Houston???....Noooo...but you sure know alot about em.