06-05-2012, 09:23 AM
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Moderator cut: orphaned Waco is about 1.5 hours from the Dallas area and (in my opinion) a very different city from Dallas.
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06-05-2012, 10:23 AM
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I appreciat eyour insight. In what respect is Dallas different than Waco?
06-05-2012, 10:32 AM
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As someone who did grow up in the LA area and having had spent significant time in Waco (my grandmother lives there and I spent summers there growing up), I will tell you that you are in for a very steep culture shock. That does not have to be a bad thing, but the areas are very different. As you know Los Angeles is a major global city and Waco is a mid-sized Texas city that offers much less in the way of ammenities, culture, food, etc. However, the people are very nice in Waco and would welcome you and your family. For a city its size in Texas, its more diverse than its peers (like Tyler, Wichita Falls, Abilene, or Amarillo) which is a plus. The Hispanic community makes up about 1/3 of the population there and there are quite a few young professionals in that number. Waco is a college town which does help some in the way of nightlife. Waco actually has a relatively lively downtown relative to its size. Its still a very quiet town overall. Dallas is only 1.5 hours away as is Austin so that is a plus as well.
06-05-2012, 10:36 AM
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To begin with, population and all that that entails. Waco is something like only 125,000 as opposed to Dallas with over a 1,000,000 and is in a metro area of over 6,000,000.
06-05-2012, 10:37 AM
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I appreciat eyour insight. In what respect is Dallas different than Waco?
That is an easy one. Dallas is the largest city in the 4th largest metro area in the US (after NYC, LA, and Chicago) and Waco is a city of about 125,000 in a metro area of about 250,000.
Dallas will have all your big city ammeities (culture, nightlife, diversity, etc.). Waco has those in much, much smaller numbers.
06-05-2012, 10:53 AM
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The shock will be HUGE. Waco is a growing college town, that has a very small town feel but has some good things to do. Obviously coming from LA, there will seem like there is nothing, and that you're out in the country. It's a great town, and as mentioned Dallas is 1.5 hours away, Austin is a little over 1.5 hours away and Houston is 3.5 hours for any Pro Sports or needed "west coast" feel get-a-ways. I would seriously consider visiting first and take a real hard look at what you would be in for. Taxes and COL would be a huge shock as well for you, and should be considered compared to MD.
06-05-2012, 12:03 PM
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06-05-2012, 12:37 PM
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My wife and I moved to Waco from the west coast (Seattle area) 9 years ago for her job. She is Hispanic (Chilean) but I'm not. Being Hispanic and bilingual was a huge plus for her in the medical field here. I was skeptical as a west coast boy but eventually settled in. I know a number of engineers who work at L-3 and they all seem happy there with the variety and type of work that they do. Seems a decent place to work. I know that wasn't your question but I'm just throwing it out.
I've also lived in the DC area for a few years. Are you talking about the Patuxent River Naval Air Station? Down in that area? Because it will be much smaller and more isolated than Waco frankly.
As for your questions.
1. Texas will be something of a culture shock if you are coming from LA. Not just Waco but any part of Texas. It is more conservative, more religious, hotter in the summer, and MUCH MUCH cheaper. People will ask you what church you attend. They won't really care, it's just part of the conversation here in a way that it isn't on the west coast.
2. Waco is a pretty decent place to live for a young family. You would want to chose one of the more upscale school districts for your son which means living in the south end of town in the suburbs of Woodway, Hewitt, or Robinson, or in the northwest suburb of China Spring (where a lot of L-3 employees live because it is pretty close). That will put you in the Midway, China Spring or Robinson school districts. If it were me I'd chose between China Spring (smaller school, more rural) or Midway (larger school, more suburban).
3. You will easily be able to buy a nice house in a great neighborhood on an engineer's salary from L-3 (I assume that's what you are based on your job choices). Much nicer than you could ever dream of in LA.
4. Waco has enough going on if you are raising a family but probably not if you are single. Most of my co-workers who have families like it here and stay. Many of my single co-workers end up eventually moving to the DFW, Austin, or Houston areas for more single life opportunities. You'll have all the typical mall shops and big box stores you are used to in California and most of the same chain restaurants. Although you'll have to get more used to TexMex or BBQ as the sushi options are more limited here. But if you like to go to the gym, eat out every so often, go to the movies you can do that easily enough here. Waco has perhaps the best zoo in the country of any small city. It's really that good. Plus DFW and Austin are both 1.5 hours away for your museum, zoo, and restaurant hopping on weekends. We mostly go to Fort Worth over Dallas because it's a bit closer and a nicer city to move around in with better zoos and museums anyway.
5. Can't answer the question about your wife. But there are two large regional hospitals herein Waco, Providence (a Catholic hospital) and Hillcrest (a Baptist hospital). There is also a massive regional hospital in Temple which is 30 minutes south of Waco on I-35, the Scott and White Hospital (big regional HMO). Lots of people commute back and forth between Waco and Temple, it would be no big deal for someone from the LA area. A reliable 30 minute commute door to door probably if you lived in the south end of Waco. I don't know who hires medical billers, is it the hospitals or the insurance companies? But there is a pretty big healthcare industry in this area so I would expect that health care related jobs are about as easy to find here as anywhere.
In terms of demographics, the Waco area is increasingly diverse. In my own little subdivision in the southern end of Waco I have neighbors on my block that are black, Hispanic, Korean, Indian (lots of Indian engineers from L-3 and Space-X and doctors seem to be buying in my neighborhood), Chinese, and of course ordinary Anglo Texans. The city itself is about 20% black and 25% Hispanic but the suburbs are whiter so the metro area as whole is perhaps about 12% black and maybe close to 20% Hispanic...mostly of Mexican heritage.
PS, In your shoes I'd choose Waco over Pax River in a heartbeat. Many more opportunities here. In addition to L-3 and Space X which both hire lots of aerospace engineers, Baylor is dumping millions and millions of dollars into a huge new technology research center that will be a private/public partnership thing with private firms working together with the university.
http://www.baylor.edu/bric/index.php?id=72126# so there is more than just L-3 happening here.
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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