Legal Underage Drinking in Texas (San Diego, Howe: for sale, to live, restaurant)

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by SteelBubble

America's logic is: give a kid a gun, send him to Afghanistan, but no, he can't have a beer.
Not allowing parents to give their kid a beer is ridiculous. I'm glad Texas allows it.

Conservatives can thank their heroe "Ronald Reagan" for creating the national minimum drinking age of 21 in 1984.

HISTORY OF THE 21 MINIMUM DRINKING AGE
MADD - History

For almost 40 years, most states voluntarily set their minimum drinking age law at 21. In the late 60s and early 70s,
29 states lowered their drinking age to more closely align with the newly reduced military enlistment and voting age.

Confronted by the failure of the 18 minimum drinking age, the President Commission on Drunk Driving recommended establishing a national 21 minimum drinking age.
President Reagan agreed and on July 17, 1984, he signed into law the Uniform Drinking Age Act mandating all states to adopt 21 as the legal drinking age within five years.
By 1988, all states had set 21 as the minimum drinking age.

[ReppingDFW]

Originally Posted by Dopo

Conservatives can thank their heroe "Ronald Reagan" for creating the national minimum drinking age of 21 in 1984.

I actually blame the neo-prohibitionist MADD for that.

[doctorjef]

Very true: MADD have done tremendous damage, no doubt (charitably) with the best of intentions. So too all social moralists.

[wawa1992]

Further research suggests that the 21 drinking age was spearheaded by a yoo-hoo named Frank Lautenberg who didn't like the discrepancy in drinking ages between NY and NJ.

[Westerntraveler]

Originally Posted by doctorjef

Very true: MADD have done tremendous damage, no doubt (charitably) with the best of intentions. So too all social moralists.

DocJ, im not real familiar with MADD so could u explain to me what kind of harm they have done?

[Trainwreck20]

Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) has lobbied hard for many years on alcohol issues, some of which have quite possible had contrary results to what was intended.

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by Westerntraveler

DocJ, im not real familiar with MADD so could u explain to me what kind of harm they have done?

Easy. They want alcohol prohibition but can't get the support for it. But if you play the ageist game and set an age limit low enough that it doesn't affect most adults, then there is support for it.

They're like the prison industry wanting more prisoners to enrich their bottom line. I won't be surprised if MADD is working with them like how the Religious Right and the Koch brothers are allied with the Republican Party.

[jimboburnsy]

Originally Posted by Westerntraveler

I'm just wondering how everybody feels about the state of Texas allowing children and spouses of adults to legally drink while they are with their spouse or parent.Why is exactly is the law this way?I'm just wondering and curious on what the people of city data and Texas feel on this issue.I dont really know.To be perfectly honest and forthcoming,I did drink with my dad when i was 20.Thanks in advance.

You can set up a trust for your child that owns property and holds assets. You are the fiduciary and guardian of your children. Why shouldn't you be able to give your kid a beer also?

The potential for abuse exists, but that exists with or without alcohol.

To me, the ability for a parent to teach a child to consume alcohol in a responsible manner is an important parenting tool. I think it's better than letting them learn from other kids.

[Westerntraveler]

Originally Posted by debzkidz

Well at least Texas doesn't have the same stupid liquor laws we have here in OK. Here, anyone under 21 can't even stand with in so many feet of a bar or a cooler holding beer. When my kids were young, we would go to our favorite Italian restaurant in Midland (Luigi's) and the kids would sit at the bar and have a coke while we waited for our table. They thought it was cool because the bartender would always serve it to them with a cherry in it. We moved to OK when they were in high school. Here, we went to a local Italian place for dinner one night. The bar is just inside the door. There's a small waiting area on the other side. It was really full, and we were standing near the bar because it was the only place we could find room. We were quickly told that our teenage sons were standing too close the the bar and we had to move. We ended up having to stand outside because everywhere was too close to the bar. Stupid! Also, once while grocery shopping with one of my sons (while he was home from college) I bought a 6-pack of beer along with an entire cart of groceries. My son was helping me unload my groceries onto the conveyor belt to check out. They refused to sell me the beer because I had a minor with me. Now, if he's with me, he has to walk outside the store and wait in the car for me while I check out, just because I want to buy a few beers.

your right about stupid oklahoma laws, i got carded when i bought vault coke two summers ago.

[theSUBlime]

Yeah, in Massachusetts, it's illegal for a minor to drink alcohol, even with their parent. So the restaurant doesn't have a say. I think Texas is right on this one. I guess I also dislike the fact that there are no happy hours, too.