Texas City Tiers (Houston, Dallas, San Antonio: credit, how much, house)

[Nairobi]

Originally Posted by marcopolo2000

IMO, suburbs have no place in rankings like this. Cities like Galveston and Beaumont might be washed up, but they are still far more important than some parasitic suburb when you look at history, importance as county seats, and industry. Without Dallas, suburbs like plano, grand prairie, lewisville and the like would be nothing.

And if all of those DFW suburbs are in there, there's NO WAY that Sugar Land, The Woodlands, Katy, Baytown, etc. don't belong.

Not trying to be overcritical of the OP, but I'm just saying...

[soletaire]

I agree...listing the entire metroplex in the rankings as though they were truly standalone cities makes for an inaccurate poll in my opinion.

[JJG]

Alright.... stand alone cities (except Arlington and Round Rock) only. I'm doing this because I forgot a few....

1st: Houston, Dallas

2nd: San Antonio, Austin, Fort Worth

3rd: El Paso, Arlington, Corpus Christi

4th: Laredo, Lubbock, Amarillo, Galveston

5th: Brownsville, Waco, Tyler, San Angelo

6th: Denton, Killeen, Abiline, Beaumont, Midland, B/CS

7th: Round Rock, Wichita Falls, Odessa

[soletaire]

Looks good to me...

And with that said I think Tier 2 is best positioned to move into greater prominence. With Corpus Christi of tier 3 and Killeen of Tier 6 gaining a steady headwind of their own.

[Nairobi]

I still maintain that Sugar Land belongs on the same tier as Round Rock.

[JJG]

Originally Posted by Nairobi

I still maintain that Sugar Land belongs on the same tier as Round Rock.

I think from now til the end of the poll, I'm just gonna let everyone else think of a town or suburb they'd want to add in.

I've changed this thing more times than Joan Rivers has changed her face.

[marcopolo2000]

Originally Posted by JJG

No, Suburbs are not exactly cities, but suburbs can grow, too.

Just think of Frisco and what it was just 10 years ago. Think of Katy.... back in '88 when I was born there, it was mostly farmland. Now look at it. Same thing with Cypress, and it's unincorporated.

The point of all this is, things change. Who knows what towns will grow/fall in population and importance, city, suburb, or small town? It's just what you think will happen.

I understand population increases and the accompanying businesses that come with it (retail,restaurants,etc) but its hard to label a city important when most of the population either works in a larger city or is dependent upon that larger city. The suburbs would die on the vine without Houston, Dallas, Austin,etc. At the same time you have cities like Waco, Wichita Falls, Galveston, and Beaumont who might not have the population of some suburbs, but they have their own identity and are the hubs of their regions.

[feufoma]

Originally Posted by marcopolo2000

I understand population increases and the accompanying businesses that come with it (retail,restaurants,etc) but its hard to label a city important when most of the population either works in a larger city or is dependent upon that larger city. The suburbs would die on the vine without Houston, Dallas, Austin,etc. At the same time you have cities like Waco, Wichita Falls, Galveston, and Beaumont who might not have the population of some suburbs, but they have their own identity and are the hubs of their regions.

Good point, I mean Galveston is certainly of more consequence than Round Rock or some similar office park town. Real history, real tie to nature, real industry.

[JJG]

Originally Posted by feufoma

Good point, I mean Galveston is certainly of more consequence than Round Rock or some similar office park town. Real history, real tie to nature, real industry.

Yeah, well the list is updated to exclude nearly all suburbs. So there ya go.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by JJG

No, Suburbs are not exactly cities, but suburbs can grow, too.

Just think of Frisco and what it was just 10 years ago. Think of Katy.... back in '88 when I was born there, it was mostly farmland. Now look at it. Same thing with Cypress, and it's unincorporated.

The point of all this is, things change. Who knows what towns will grow/fall in population and importance, city, suburb, or small town? It's just what you think will happen.

These suburbs don't hold much political clout and are irrelevant besides the population they govern.