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Unread 08-25-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Rose Capital of The World
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I find that they congest the highways even more (forcing more local traffic onto the highway vs the major streets). Plus, it's annoying having to go over three lanes of traffic to exit.
Yet you & your forum buddies criticize Tyler for NOT having a freeway system & so many stop lights at major intersections causing traffic problems?

Hmm...makes perfect sense.
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Unread 08-25-2012, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas
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Yet you & your forum buddies criticize Tyler for NOT having a freeway system & so many stop lights at major intersections causing traffic problems?

Hmm...makes perfect sense.
You're confusing me with someone else. I've never posted anything about Tyler positive or negative LOL
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Unread 08-25-2012, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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The problem is how they're designed. Freeways shouldn't cut through cities. They are instant ghettoizers. Public transport isn't the alternative to highways. Better designed highways are.
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Unread 08-25-2012, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Could you imagine highways going right through Manhattan? Ewww
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Unread 08-25-2012, 08:22 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Could you imagine highways going right through Manhattan? Ewww
That was planned , but stopped...
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Unread 08-25-2012, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I'm curious to see what the percentages are of those people complaining about the walk-ability in Texas and how many of them are transplants from larger mextro like New York or Boston? I'm not trying to beat the transplant drum but transplants moving to Texas from such areas are used to mass public transient which isn't all that abundant in Texas. I recall a tread here a while back where a couple was moving from Massachusetts and asking about public Transpertation. It seemed neither one owned a vehicle.
I lived in Kansas City and St. Louis before moving to Texas
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Unread 08-25-2012, 10:58 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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The problem is how they're designed. Freeways shouldn't cut through cities. They are instant ghettoizers. Public transport isn't the alternative to highways. Better designed highways are.
..... instant ghettoizers? That's a new one.

Anyway, it's a bit too late for that and the reason for this is to get goods and passengers in and out of the city as quick as possible. I really don't see how much better a highway can even be designed. Also, there is the fact that some MAJOR highways were built outside the city, but the city expanded...
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Unread 08-26-2012, 12:00 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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..... instant ghettoizers? That's a new one.

Anyway, it's a bit too late for that and the reason for this is to get goods and passengers in and out of the city as quick as possible. I really don't see how much better a highway can even be designed. Also, there is the fact that some MAJOR highways were built outside the city, but the city expanded...
Highways in Europe go under the City , so it doesn't destroy the neighborhoods above yet still allows goods in and out of the city. I don't why they haven't done the same here , they choose the cheap yet City damaging at grade way.
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Unread 08-26-2012, 12:52 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Highways in Europe go under the City , so it doesn't destroy the neighborhoods above yet still allows goods in and out of the city. I don't why they haven't done the same here , they choose the cheap yet City damaging at grade way.
- The get on/get off, easy access aproach to neighborhoods right off the freeway.
- The little concerns of earthquakes (West Coast) and flooding (Houston/New Orleans).
- And people's fear of bombings.

(P.S., good luck trying to get America to do ANYTHING Europe does)
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Unread 08-26-2012, 01:06 AM
 
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Unless it's underground, mass transit divides neighborhoods too. I don't think you could go underground in Houston (flooding) or Austin (too many springs). Aren't there usually grocery stores on both sides of a highway or freeway? I sometimes walk to the store, but mostly drive because I don't want to lug all that stuff home (especially when it's 100). And, half the traffic problems would be solved if people would live closer to where they work. If you work in the burbs, live in the burbs. If you work in the city, live in the city.
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