Why is Houston Better Than Dallas? (River Oaks, Atlanta: home, to live, eat)

[TheOverdog]

Houston is known across the globe for its oil, energy, foreign trade, medical, & space industry...&

Jezus you Houston people are full of yourself. Houston is a polluted oil town that is 99% the same as Dallas. Dallas people are more pretentious? Have you all read what you have written? A place you describe yourself as a traditionally blue color town is more cosmopolitan? How did that happen? Did it somehow involve kicking out all the actual blue collar workers for hip money managers? If so, that makes 2 major industries that Houston specializes in that do equal amounts of good and damage to the earth.

Houston is like LA in that they both are by an ocean, except people want to live by the one in LA. In Houston, the nicest area is a suburb that is the one closest to Dallas and farthest from the ocean. If LA was really like that, then people would fall all over themselves to live in Ontario or Chino instead of Malibu or Santa Monica.

There's post after post here telling how great Houston is because it's downtown buildings are slightly taller. Is that part of what you all consider "laid back"? It's also somewhat ironic to describe a place that is 85F with 80% humidity 300 days a year as 'cool'.

And finally, Houston is known for its space program? I don't think so. Most people aren't even aware that when Misson Control says "Houston" they mean the city in Texas. Houston didn't even get a retired space shuttle - that's how well it's known for it's space program.

It's not even like I think Houston is a bad place - when Gabby Giffords got shot, they didn't take her to CA or keep her in AZ, they took her to Houston. But you all gotta make up a bunch of silly nonsensical contradictions on how great Houston is, I've gotta knock it back a little.

[Nairobi]

I see it's the same ol' BS coming from both sides. Nothing's changed.

[sxrckr]

The Space Shuttle snub was a political "stick-it" to Texas, nothing more. Pretty much everyone relates Houston and NASA unless you've been living under a rock the last 40 years.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

Jezus you Houston people are full of yourself. Houston is a polluted oil town that is 99% the same as Dallas. Dallas people are more pretentious? Have you all read what you have written? A place you describe yourself as a traditionally blue color town is more cosmopolitan? How did that happen? Did it somehow involve kicking out all the actual blue collar workers for hip money managers? If so, that makes 2 major industries that Houston specializes in that do equal amounts of good and damage to the earth.

Chicago, a blue collar city too is more cosmopolitan than both Houston & Dallas.

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

Houston is like LA in that they both are by an ocean, except people want to live by the one in LA. In Houston, the nicest area is a suburb that is the one closest to Dallas and farthest from the ocean. If LA was really like that, then people would fall all over themselves to live in Ontario or Chino instead of Malibu or Santa Monica.

The Woodlands is an excellent suburb. There are some nice suburbs near the water too in the Bay Area...League City, Clear Lake, & Kemah.

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

here's post after post here telling how great Houston is because it's downtown buildings are slightly taller. Is that part of what you all consider "laid back"? It's also somewhat ironic to describe a place that is 85F with 80% humidity 300 days a year as 'cool'.

Slightly taller? Houston has 3 of the tallest skyscrapers in Texas. They're all considered super talls because they're right at or over 1,000'.

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

And finally, Houston is known for its space program? I don't think so. Most people aren't even aware that when Misson Control says "Houston" they mean the city in Texas. Houston didn't even get a retired space shuttle - that's how well it's known for it's space program.

It's not even like I think Houston is a bad place - when Gabby Giffords got shot, they didn't take her to CA or keep her in AZ, they took her to Houston. But you all gotta make up a bunch of silly nonsensical contradictions on how great Houston is, I've gotta knock it back a little.

Houston was the first word spoken from the moon. Its why the city's official nickname is Space City. Its displayed all over town in businesses names, its even on the sides of emergency vehicles & arm patches.

Dallas doesn't have any cool city nicknames.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by R1070

Uptown Dallas is probably the most urban neighborhood in Texas.

Uptown Dallas is no different from the 4th Ward Corridor (Midtown, Montrose, Near Town) in Houston.
Have you seen the number of restaurants, stores, etc in that area? Do you know how many people live in that Corridor?

Uptown in Dallas is a novelty for you because it is new. They have been building like that in Houston for ages.

Dallas has no answer for the west side of the inner loop. that is 45 sq miles of development that Dallas does not have on a similar scale. The east side of the loop is finally coming along with more multifamily housing coming up in the 3rd ward and EaDo

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

Uptown Dallas is no different from the 4th Ward Corridor (Midtown, Montrose, Near Town) in Houston.
Have you seen the number of restaurants, stores, etc in that area? Do you know how many people live in that Corridor?

Uptown in Dallas is a novelty for you because it is new. They have been building like that in Houston for ages.

Dallas has no answer for the west side of the inner loop. that is 45 sq miles of development that Dallas does not have on a similar scale. The east side of the loop is finally coming along with more multifamily housing coming up in the 3rd ward and EaDo

And why should we have an answer. Im sure MOST Dallasites are more than happy that Dallas is developing different from Houston...WE DO NOT WANT TO BE HOUSTON. Mile after mile of jumbled up random, fragmented, unorganized, confusing mess....No Thanks....
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Whenever the time comes when Dallas has as many buildings as Houston has TODAY;Dallas will be a billion times better than Houston because all of the development would be well planned in executed style.(The Dallas Way)

[R1070]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

Uptown Dallas is no different from the 4th Ward Corridor (Midtown, Montrose, Near Town) in Houston.
Have you seen the number of restaurants, stores, etc in that area? Do you know how many people live in that Corridor?

Uptown in Dallas is a novelty for you because it is new. They have been building like that in Houston for ages.

Dallas has no answer for the west side of the inner loop. that is 45 sq miles of development that Dallas does not have on a similar scale. The east side of the loop is finally coming along with more multifamily housing coming up in the 3rd ward and EaDo

Actually not exactly. Those areas of Houston are not developed the same as Uptown Dallas. Uptown here has more sidewalks, the historic trolleys, a much more mixed use feel of live/work/play. Better sidewalks, crosswalks, cohesive nightlife. Midtown in Houston looks like some parts of Uptown Dallas in the areas that have been gentrified, but overall not the same animal. Montrose and Neartown are pretty much the same area. Both have nice townhome development, but I would equate those areas to other parts of Dallas like East Dallas or Oak Lawn, but even those areas of Dallas are more pedestrian friendly than Neartown and Montrose with better sidewalks and the Turtle Creek park system/ Katy Trail, etc. There is not direct comparison to Uptown Dallas in Houston currently.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by R1070

Actually not exactly. Those areas of Houston are not developed the same as Uptown Dallas. Uptown here has more sidewalks, the historic trolleys, a much more mixed use feel of live/work/play. Better sidewalks, crosswalks, cohesive nightlife. Midtown in Houston looks like some parts of Uptown Dallas in the areas that have been gentrified, but overall not the same animal. Montrose and Neartown are pretty much the same area. Both have nice townhome development, but I would equate those areas to other parts of Dallas like East Dallas or Oak Lawn, but even those areas of Dallas are more pedestrian friendly than Neartown and Montrose with better sidewalks and the Turtle Creek park system/ Katy Trail, etc. There is not direct comparison to Uptown Dallas in Houston currently.

Agreed. You could basically say there is no uptown Dallas equivalent in Houston and there is no uptown Houston equivalent in Dallas.

[Nairobi]

Yeah, he has somewhat of a point, but more often than not, he's a little too eager to spin things in Dallas' favor.

I do agree, though, that the "Uptowns" of Houston and Dallas aren't really comparable, despite the names.

[jbarn]

Originally Posted by Spade

Agreed. You could basically say there is no uptown Dallas equivalent in Houston and there is no uptown Houston equivalent in Dallas.

The problem is, the Houston folks continue to compare uptown Houston to uptown Dallas when in fact they are nothing alike. Dallas folks do not compare uptown Dallas to uptown Houston as we know that they are totally different types of neighborhoods. Just spent the weekend in Houston, in the uptown area, it is too car-oriented, too spread out, and is not pedestrian friendly. The big, shiny buildings look great from the highway, but once you exit the highway you do not get the feeling of a cohesive, urban neighborhood like you do with uptown Dallas. I do not think that Houston has a real, urban neighborhood such as uptown Dallas, where you actually see people walking the streets, living, eating, working, playing, all in one compact, contiguous, cohesive area.