Why is Houston Better Than Dallas? (San Antonio, Austin: garden, parking, property)

[First24]

Originally Posted by stoneclaw

So basically you're going by a few months of data that puts DFW ahead. Using those links, you should know each metro will trade off at different times. But it makes sense that DFW is larger than Houston by 500-600k people. Isn't that about the population of Ft Worth?

DFW was not within the top 5 for 2012 and into 2013. And, yes, I do know metro areas trade rankings, that's why the historical data chart was posted.

Fort Worth's population is now over 700K. Two major cities (Dallas + Fort Worth) being in such close proximity to one another is a huge benefit the Metroplex has always had over Houston. It's also notable that the Greater Houston area (with 500K+ less in population) takes up almost the same amount of land area as D/FW combined. Meaning, having to drive through a lot more sprawl to get to various venues (sports stadiums, museums etc..). Help is on the way though. With the emergence of super suburbs like The Woodlands and Sugar Land, there will be less dependence on the core city. They've already built their own amenities like spacious business parks, arts centers and sports stadiums.

Back to jmonroy1973's statement "we are way ahead of the pack and staying that way". Maybe this person means Houston is ahead of the pack of Southeast Texas cities? Economic indicators for Austin and DFW have been outperforming Houston for months.

[dollaztx]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

No, Houston feels larger because of the in your face skylines & 24 lane freeways not present in D/FW.

The substantially increased level of diversity also makes Houston feel more metropolitan.

Wanna talk land area? D/FW naturally covers more land area than Houston. Density throughout those land areas is identical.

That last sentence is just sad. You're bragging about Dallas sprawling all the way into another state. At least Houston keeps its growth inside Texas.

You said it.

[dollaztx]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

No, Houston feels larger because of the in your face skylines & 24 lane freeways not present in D/FW.

Can't relate how 24 lane freeways equals bigger metro. By your metrics Houston feels waaayyy bigger than NYC.

[BCB]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

No, Houston feels larger because of the in your face skylines & 24 lane freeways not present in D/FW.

There is only one freeway with 24 lanes in Houston, Katy Freeway, which is a fail since it's backed up for miles on a daily basis.

Besides, the DFW Connector and LBJ Express both are wider than anything in Houston. Facts are facts.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by First24

DFW was not within the top 5 for 2012 and into 2013. And, yes, I do know metro areas trade rankings, that's why the historical data chart was posted.

Fort Worth's population is now over 700K. Two major cities (Dallas + Fort Worth) being in such close proximity to one another is a huge benefit the Metroplex has always had over Houston. It's also notable that the Greater Houston area (with 500K+ less in population) takes up almost the same amount of land area as D/FW combined. Meaning, having to drive through a lot more sprawl to get to various venues (sports stadiums, museums etc..). Help is on the way though. With the emergence of super suburbs like The Woodlands and Sugar Land, there will be less dependence on the core city. They've already built their own amenities like spacious business parks, arts centers and sports stadiums.

Back to jmonroy1973's statement "we are way ahead of the pack and staying that way". Maybe this person means Houston is ahead of the pack of Southeast Texas cities? Economic indicators for Austin and DFW have been outperforming Houston for months.

This is a lie.

D/FW covers 12 counties.

Greater Houston covers 9 counties.

D/FW's growth is fragmented & its suburbs on steroids suck jobs away from the main cities of Dallas & Fort Worth.

Houston is the center of its metro where everyone works. Houston is the sun, if you will, of the galaxy which everything else revolves around.

Dallas uses Fort Worth as a crutch to compensate for what it lacks.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by BCB

There is only one freeway with 24 lanes in Houston, Katy Freeway, which is a fail since it's backed up for miles on a daily basis.

Besides, the DFW Connector and LBJ Express both are wider than anything in Houston. Facts are facts.

Uh actually 59 in Houston is the widest freeway where 610, 59, & the Westpark Tollway meet.

I wanna say it totals something like 26-28 lanes wide & is the widest intersection by far in the United States & possibly the World.

Dallas used to brag about the High 5, its first 5 stack interchange when Houston has had 5 stack interchanges all over the city for quite a while.

[BCB]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

Uh actually 59 in Houston is the widest freeway where 610, 59, & the Westpark Tollway meet.

I wanna say it totals something like 26-28 lanes wide & is the widest intersection by far in the United States & possibly the World.

Dallas used to brag about the High 5, its first 5 stack interchange when Houston has had 5 stack interchanges all over the city for quite a while.

I only counted 23 lanes, including service roads AND turning lanes, at the Chimney Rock overpass.

[First24]

According to the United States Census Bureau the Houston–The Woodlands–Sugar Land metropolitan area has a total area of 10,062 square miles (26,060 km²), 8,929 sq mi is land area, while 1,133 sq mi (2,930 km2). is water area.; slightly smaller than Massachusetts and slightly larger than New Jersey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Houston

The Metroplex encompasses 9,286 square miles of total area: 8,991 sq mi is land, while 295 sq mi (760 km2) is water, making it larger in area than the U.S. states of Rhode Island and Connecticut combined.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas%E2%80%93Fort_Worth_metroplex

[jbarn]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

By 500,000 people.

You wouldn't know it by visiting the two metros. Houston "feels" & looks larger than D/FW. Everyone says that about Houston.

It takes both Dallas & Fort Worth combined to equal Houston.

If it weren't for Dallas' massive suburbs, Dallas would be nothing more than an overgrown OKC.

And here we go; another negative, untrue statement about DFW by Metro Matt. He hates this place so. Good thing he lives in wonderful East Texas, far away from this horrible Metroplex that he so despises, for some unknown reason.

[jbarn]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

No, Houston feels larger because of the in your face skylines & 24 lane freeways not present in D/FW.

The substantially increased level of diversity also makes Houston feel more metropolitan.

Wanna talk land area? D/FW naturally covers more land area than Houston. Density throughout those land areas is identical.

That last sentence is just sad. You're bragging about Dallas sprawling all the way into another state. At least Houston keeps its growth inside Texas.

You think it is sad that he is bragging about Dallas sprawling, yet you brag about 24 lane freeways, now that is truly sad.