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View Poll Results: Which major Texas city is best prepared for growth?
Houston 41 39.42%
San Antonio 12 11.54%
DFW 37 35.58%
Austin 0 0%
Why is Austin in this thread? 14 13.46%
Voters: 104. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-09-2013, 12:53 PM
 
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Which of the Texas MSAs above have the best handle on growth both in the urban core and in the suburbs.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Not Austin.

It has to be either DFW or Houston.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:06 PM
 
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Housing would go to Dallas and exspanding highway system would go to Houston so it is hard to say!!!
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:07 PM
 
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Housing and Transportation both go to Dallas. DFW actually plans for growth. DART has done a great job expanding its light rail service to most parts of Dallas and its neighboring suburbs.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Housing would go to Dallas and exspanding highway system would go to Houston so it is hard to say!!!
Why would housing go to Dallas?

Houston is building just as much, if not more. It was recently rated the 4th best performing city in the country by the Milken Institute. Even Fort Worth/Arlington was ahead of Dallas.

Dallas has the slight edge with its swanky urban neighborhoods & public transportation, but its still the largest land locked metropolitan area in America which sucks.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:44 PM
 
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Why would housing go to Dallas?

Houston is building just as much, if not more. It was recently rated the 4th best performing city in the country by the Milken Institute. Even Fort Worth/Arlington was ahead of Dallas.

Dallas has the slight edge with its swanky urban neighborhoods & public transportation, but its still the largest land locked metropolitan area in America which sucks.
oh, cause a day at the beach in Houston is something you do all the time. . .
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:51 PM
 
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It is:

DFW

*Huge Gap*

Houston

San Antonio

*Huge Gap*

Austin

DFW is by far the most forward thinking on growth. It understands the urban core has to be revitalized and grown, it already has a somewhat mature transit system, it has a vision for the urban core completely unmatched by any other city in Texas and the largest amount of amenable close in neighborhoods that are still affordable, it has aggressively and effectively use tolling. There are problems too - the mid-cities area is one long uninterrupted sprawling mess. But overall it vision and planning for Dallas are on par to make it a world class city some day.

Austin, OTOH, is completely unprepared, mired in debate over whether it should even welcome inevitable growth, as adopted the worst practices of sending all growth to its periphery and genuinely seems clueless over what to do with the best waterfront in Texas.

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Old 02-09-2013, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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oh, cause a day at the beach in Houston is something you do all the time. . .
I can go to the beach anytime trust me...

My friend owns a quaint little bungalo home built in the 1960's just a block or walking distance away from east beach & UTMB. Its nice having connections & friends in higher places.

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Old 02-09-2013, 04:46 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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DFW is by far the most forward thinking on growth. It understands the urban core has to be revitalized and grown
MmmHmm. Which is why almost all of its sports stadiums are now in downtown rather than suburb cities, has had an established theater district and museum district for decades now, has new parks over former surface parking lots, and was the only Texas city to make it to the finalists for the Olympics. Oh wait, that's Houston...

I'm not trying to knock Dallas... just saying you don't give Houston enough credit and constantly seem to be bashing it with regard to sprawl/being "non-central." You concentrate on the freeways and forget about everything else, including some facts.
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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It is:

DFW

*Huge Gap*

Houston


San Antonio

*Huge Gap*

Austin

DFW is by far the most forward thinking on growth. It understands the urban core has to be revitalized and grown, it already has a somewhat mature transit system, it has a vision for the urban core completely unmatched by any other city in Texas and the largest amount of amenable close in neighborhoods that are still affordable, it has aggressively and effectively use tolling. There are problems too - the mid-cities area is one long uninterrupted sprawling mess. But overall it vision and planning for Dallas are on par to make it a world class city some day.

Austin, OTOH, is completely unprepared, mired in debate over whether it should even welcome inevitable growth, as adopted the worst practices of sending all growth to its periphery and genuinely seems clueless over what to do with the best waterfront in Texas.
Put the pipe down man.

The difference isn't all that great. In fact, inner city Houston was denser than inner city Dallas last time I checked, but its probably neck & neck or close to it by now. Dallas just builds its urban environments much differently than Houston which tends to be more spaced out. That is changing.

D/FW is only larger than Greater Houston by 400,000 people because it relies too heavily on its rival & crutch, Fort Worth.

There is a HUGE gap between D/FW at #4 & Chicago at #3.

Chicago makes Dallas look like a hick town.
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