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Old 01-26-2014, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh. Blah.
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I am currently living in Pittsburgh, PA. I am originally from Wheeling, WV. I don't mind country. I actually miss it. I despise cold weather. My boyfriend and I are keeping an eye on a new casino (that's the industry we are in) opening in Lake Charles, LA this summer 2014. We would prefer to live in TX and make the drive. We'd like to keep it an hour of less (less is better). There is some info on these areas, but it's all a few years old.

We don't have kids and don't plan to. We are pretty low maintenance. Give us a good bar and some thrift/antique stores and we are happy campers. Maybe a movie theatre. We like to go out for dinner maybe two or three times a month. We like concerts, but I figure an hour or 2 drive will take care of that. We are 30 and 31.

So, where is a good place to live? We heard bad things and good about Orange, (better for West Orange) and a boss I have now says Beaumont is nice but it looks like the crime there is high. We were very interested in Lumberton, it seemed the best choice, but a little far. We would rent, I am almost certain. We bought our house here and now after 3 years are dealing with "to sell or to rent?" So I doubt we will look to buy another home unless we really really love it here.

How is the drive to Lake Charles from...whatever place you suggest? Any info is good. Again, I don't really care about schools and kid related stuff. We are quiet, friendly people who don't bother anyone and are tired of living with neighbors on top of us and below freezing temperatures, but that doesn't mean I want to be completely isolated from civilization either. Also, if anyone knows anything about Lake Charles, feel free to give that info, too, please and thank you.

I have 2 bosses that are from TX. One is more familiar with the area I speak of but he has been gone for 6 years. The other lived in San Antonio and suggested moving to Baton Rouge, LA instead, as she also spent time in LA/MS area and is unfamiliar with the particular part of TX I am asking about.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:55 PM
 
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I heard Beaumont is a bad town based on what I always read on here.....I think the drive from there to Lake Charles is on the interstate...but I don't how long the drive is.guess you could look on mapquest.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh. Blah.
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Yeah, mapquest says about an hour. I'm really looking for info from people who are familiar with the area. My boss said it was great but like I said, he's been gone a long time. Lumberton looks great though...but it's a little farther than I had planned. Like I said, this is all in the planning phase. Orange is the closest, and people say it's bad. On the crime sites it looks bad but it looks to be all small stuff, assults, drunk in public, the like. No major crimes. West orange looks virtually crime free and photos of Orange look lovely. I guess it depends on who you ask. Most people here love Pittsburgh, but I absolutely hate it. I have never encountered such a sense of entitlement and ego in my life! Although I'm sure the business I am in doesn't help much. And back to the crime thing, Orange doesn't look any worse than Pittsburgh, and in 3 years I have never had an issue.
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Old 01-26-2014, 11:03 PM
 
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Yeah, mapquest says about an hour. I'm really looking for info from people who are familiar with the area. My boss said it was great but like I said, he's been gone a long time. Lumberton looks great though...but it's a little farther than I had planned. Like I said, this is all in the planning phase. Orange is the closest, and people say it's bad. On the crime sites it looks bad but it looks to be all small stuff, assults, drunk in public, the like. No major crimes. West orange looks virtually crime free and photos of Orange look lovely. I guess it depends on who you ask. Most people here love Pittsburgh, but I absolutely hate it. I have never encountered such a sense of entitlement and ego in my life! Although I'm sure the business I am in doesn't help much. And back to the crime thing, Orange doesn't look any worse than Pittsburgh, and in 3 years I have never had an issue.
okay perhaps you could make it work although I really don't know the area so I am sorry I can not be of more service to you but best of luck.
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:10 AM
 
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I AM NEW TO THIS FORUM, PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE ANSWERING
I am currently living in Pittsburgh, PA. I am originally from Wheeling, WV. I don't mind country. I actually miss it. I despise cold weather. My boyfriend and I are keeping an eye on a new casino (that's the industry we are in) opening in Lake Charles, LA this summer 2014. We would prefer to live in TX and make the drive. We'd like to keep it an hour of less (less is better). There is some info on these areas, but it's all a few years old.

We don't have kids and don't plan to. We are pretty low maintenance. Give us a good bar and some thrift/antique stores and we are happy campers. Maybe a movie theatre. We like to go out for dinner maybe two or three times a month. We like concerts, but I figure an hour or 2 drive will take care of that. We are 30 and 31.

So, where is a good place to live? We heard bad things and good about Orange, (better for West Orange) and a boss I have now says Beaumont is nice but it looks like the crime there is high. We were very interested in Lumberton, it seemed the best choice, but a little far. We would rent, I am almost certain. We bought our house here and now after 3 years are dealing with "to sell or to rent?" So I doubt we will look to buy another home unless we really really love it here.

How is the drive to Lake Charles from...whatever place you suggest? Any info is good. Again, I don't really care about schools and kid related stuff. We are quiet, friendly people who don't bother anyone and are tired of living with neighbors on top of us and below freezing temperatures, but that doesn't mean I want to be completely isolated from civilization either. Also, if anyone knows anything about Lake Charles, feel free to give that info, too, please and thank you.

I have 2 bosses that are from TX. One is more familiar with the area I speak of but he has been gone for 6 years. The other lived in San Antonio and suggested moving to Baton Rouge, LA instead, as she also spent time in LA/MS area and is unfamiliar with the particular part of TX I am asking about.
Why would you want to live in Texas and work in Louisiana? You will have to pay the state income taxes in Louisiana and the high property taxes in Texas.

Second, you do not want to drive east to work. You don't really.

Third, if you really must live in Texas, Little Cyprus and Mauriceville are much closer to the border and are decent little towns. However, so is Vinton, and there are some really nice areas in Lake Charles. While there are not of really great places to the east of Lake Charles, (You would drive west to work.) The area north, just like Lumberton is to Beaumont, tends more to piney woods than coastal plains.

Being from Texas and growing up in Groves and living for several years in Orange county, and having a son that attended McNeese in Lake Charles. I would skip the Beaumont area and move to the Lake Charles area. The Cajuns just tend to live better.

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Qazulight
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Old 01-27-2014, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh. Blah.
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Why would you want to live in Texas and work in Louisiana? You will have to pay the state income taxes in Louisiana and the high property taxes in Texas.

Second, you do not want to drive east to work. You don't really.

Third, if you really must live in Texas, Little Cyprus and Mauriceville are much closer to the border and are decent little towns. However, so is Vinton, and there are some really nice areas in Lake Charles. While there are not of really great places to the east of Lake Charles, (You would drive west to work.) The area north, just like Lumberton is to Beaumont, tends more to piney woods than coastal plains.

Being from Texas and growing up in Groves and living for several years in Orange county, and having a son that attended McNeese in Lake Charles. I would skip the Beaumont area and move to the Lake Charles area. The Cajuns just tend to live better.

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Qazulight
Why? I really don't know. As I said before, some people seem of the opinion that Texas is a better option. I think there is a lot of negative said about Lake Charles and Louisiana in general that is unmerited. They say it's poor, depressed...whatever. I just wrote it the other thread I started, I am from Wheeling, WV. It's not great. It's poor. It's depressed. It has its nice places, too. And at the end of the day, it's home, and will always be in my heart. Pittsburgh isn't the city it's natives like to claim it is, either. It's not some cultural hub, nor is it cutting edge. Most of them have never seen anything else to compare it to.

The more I read, I think I would love Lake Charles. It seems like my kind of place. Good food, good people, a little entertainment, that's all I need.

Please tell me though, why do you say you don't want to drive East?
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Grapevine, Texas
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Please tell me though, why do you say you don't want to drive East?
Every morning you will have the sun in your face as you drive to work, and it will be in your face again when you drive home in the evening, too.

I agree that living in one state and working in another gets messy with the tax issues.
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Old 01-27-2014, 09:46 PM
 
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Why? I really don't know. As I said before, some people seem of the opinion that Texas is a better option. I think there is a lot of negative said about Lake Charles and Louisiana in general that is unmerited. They say it's poor, depressed...whatever. I just wrote it the other thread I started, I am from Wheeling, WV. It's not great. It's poor. It's depressed. It has its nice places, too. And at the end of the day, it's home, and will always be in my heart. Pittsburgh isn't the city it's natives like to claim it is, either. It's not some cultural hub, nor is it cutting edge. Most of them have never seen anything else to compare it to.

The more I read, I think I would love Lake Charles. It seems like my kind of place. Good food, good people, a little entertainment, that's all I need.

Please tell me though, why do you say you don't want to drive East?
It is extremely uncomfortable. I suppose in Seattle where it is always cloudy it wouldn't be a problem. I assure you, there will be a few days every year where will drive directly into the sun going to work and coming home.

Bad idea, bad, bad, bad, I did it. Did I mention it was bad?

The economy is very similar between Lake Charles and Beaumont they both depend mostly on refining and to a lessor extent on agriculture, either crops or timber. South of I-10 the land tends to be low coastal plains. Very flat with few trees except those planted around the houses. The culture is geared more to the swamps, fishing, hunting and such. (Everybody enjoys a beer or two, or twenty. There are drive through Daiquiri places in Lake Charles, but not in Texas.) North of Lake Charles, near Moss Bluff, you still have mostly flat land, but you start getting some piney woods, just like Lumberton north of Beaumont. The culture there tends more toward the rivers, fishing, hunting.

When I was living in Orange Texas and working, 7 days on, 7 days off in Morgan City Louisiana, I had a "Holier Than Thou" attitude. Morgan City is simply not much of a city. But, back then a person working for a major oil company and living in Morgan City could make 80 grand a year, work half the year, and live in a 2000 square foot house that only cost him a years gross salary.

After watching the festivals and parades and all the things the Cajuns do, I thought," I may be "Smarter, better educated, drink less, and a fine upstanding Texan", but these guys are just living better.

If you want to live on the coast and work in the casino's Lake Charles is as good a place as any. Myself, once I moved to Deep East Texas in the Piney Woods, I would never go back to the coast. In fact, I wanted more opportunity, so instead of taking a job just down the road in Houston, (3 hours) I moved to Fargo North Dakota.

The one thing Texas has over Louisiana is roads. There is just no comparison. However, the road system in Texas, as a system, is probably better than any in the world. I don't say this to brag, I say it because I have driven on many of them including the German system. On the other hand, Louisiana, especially southern Louisiana has nature working against them. Where most people just find some land, and start building a road, in southern Louisiana , they find some swamp, build some land, then build a road. It gets a little expensive.

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Qazulight (and good luck)
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Greenville, Delaware
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I haven't lived in Beaumont for years, but there are really lovely, well-established middle class parts of town there, and we were certainly never troubled by crime. Undoubtedly there is ample crime in impoverished parts of town -- as with anywhere else. Beaumont has some amenities, certainly more than anywhere else in the area. Orange is far sleepier, but closer to Lake Charles. I haven't spent much time in Orange. Drove around. Looked at the incredible old First Presbyterian Church, with its dome, its Tiffany windows, and the fact that historically it was the first public building in Texas to have air conditioning. There is something romantic about Orange, in that decaying Southern sort of way. Lumberton, Silsbee and other little towns outlying Beaumont to the north aren't going to be as convenient, I think. Be warned, depending on precisely where you live, the whole place smells either of refineries or paper mills. Not much winter, but you might find the flat coastal plain depressing in comparison to West Virginia. Culturally, it's an interesting place, very much influenced by southern Louisiana /Acadiana immediately to the east. Really, I'd live in Beaumont. The drive won't be that much farther than living in Orange, and I don't think the little exurban towns have much going for them at all. And steer clear of xenophobic Vidor, with its Klan history and its believe-it-or-burn religiosity.
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Old 01-29-2014, 10:36 AM
 
Location: League City
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I grew up in Orange. I even worked in Lake Charles for a bit. Don't move to Orange unless, as stated earlier, it is to Little Cypress or Mauriceville. Orange has gone downhill after getting smacked by 2 hurricanes, and a bad economy. Lots of once well-kept middle class picket-fence neighborhoods now have drug problems. There are some great cultural amenities in Orange for it's size, and it genuinely could become a tourist destination someday, but right now it is still reeling. There are good and bad areas in both Beaumont and Lake Charles since they are the larger cities in that area. Growing up, I always felt Beaumont to be a bit stagnant, whereas Lake Charles was always more lively. And that was before the casinos arrived. Lake Charles supports their university more than Beaumont supports it's own university. There seems to be more real festivals there, too.

If you are looking to work in Lake Charles, then that is the best choice to live. Or maybe even Sulphur. I've heard that Moss Bluff has grown into a really nice area (my old job was right next to Moss Bluff). I know there are other great neighborhoods there, too. I would never want to commute from Beaumont to Lake Charles.
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