02-25-2015, 09:05 PM
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I am a San Antonio native and my husband and I currently live just outside Saint Paul, Minnesota. We are contemplating coming back to Texas. My family is in Austin and we wish to be close-ish but not too close and so we are looking at the Waco area. Based on the school districts (we have three small children) we'd likely be looking in the Woodway area for a home, planning to spend not more than $400k.
So we will be driving through town on the way to see my parents this weekend. Any thoughts on the route to take to check out the highlights? Being from San Antonio (and my husband being from the Detroit area) we know all too well that the character of a city can vary widely based on the area of the town you are in, so we are not bothered by the idea that there is a "bad" side of town. But we want to see the area middle class family type people spend time in. And I want to get a good feel for Woodway.
Can anyone suggest some "can't miss" areas, streets, and neighborhoods for suburban folks? I lived a whole life in Texas and seriously have never been to Waco. So I have no idea. Thanks for the help.
02-25-2015, 09:30 PM
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No one really moves to Waco because it's a nice place to live. It's not. I would skip it and try Belton. Easy drive to Austin and a much nicer place to live. If you have to do Waco then Woodway is definitely your best bet. For under 400k you are probably looking at older Woodway, Twin Rivers area and other areas off 84. Badger Ranch is the premier development in town but prices are higher.
02-26-2015, 09:49 PM
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I see what you are getting at, I guess....but the vast majority of cities in America arent "nice places to live" per say. They are right for the situation and the person. No one moves to Peoria expecting to love it. But some people do. And sometimes the nice places to live aren't a great fit. I spent several years in Austin and can't imagine raising kids someplace so wishy washy. Great for a single person, not so much for my family.
So for us, given our religious preferences, politics, and the fact that in a place like Waco, I can get a great house for quite a bit less than half a mil...its a contender for now. We looked at the nice places to live- San francisco, Austin, Portland, etc. I just don't like having to blow so much on a house and given that we are homebodies, we would get nothing out of it. So, anyone else have any feedback on where to go in Waco to get a look that will enable us to draw some conclusions, both good and bad?
02-27-2015, 07:00 AM
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I had somewhat similar logic for why I might like living in Waco. I was wrong.
03-22-2015, 06:56 PM
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Explorer's Waco hate is a waste of his time and ours.
Waco gets nicer the closer you get to Lake Waco. So concentrate in West Waco.
For Woodway, go down Highway 84 from Highway 6. Take the Poage exit. You can poke around the surrounding neighborhoods. Turn right (northeast) on Stoney Point from Poage. Check out Forest Oaks. Turn left on Fairway. You will dead end on another major Woodway Street.-- Estates. From that intersection, you're in the center of Woodway.
To the left is the arboretum, city hall and the lake. Go up Estates and turn left on Bosque to see the lake and other neighborhoods. (You would turn right on Bosque to go into Waco). Go back down on Estates over 84. There you'll find HEB, Wal-mart and a cluster of other retail further down Hewitt Drive.
03-22-2015, 08:04 PM
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I assume you are coming down I-35 North? If so do the following (I assume you have a smart phone or GPS to follow streets):
1. Exit 338B as you are entering the Waco area from the north and turn right onto Lake Shore Drive. You'll go past the big waterpark and the tennis and baseball complexes. follow this road as it loops around the west side of Waco and along the lake until you leave the lake and it becomes Valley Mills Drive and enters into a newer commercial area with lots of chain restaurants.
2. Turn left on Bosque Blvd and continue, passing under Highway 6 (which is the dividing line between Waco and Woodway). This is the older part of Woodway, the nicer houses are not right along Bosque. Continue on Bosque until you get to a 3-way stop sign. To the left is the Arboretum which is worth a quick stop if you want to stretch your legs on some short trails among the flowers. It is free.
3. Continue straight from the 3-way stop past the Woodway Family Center and the road becomes Estates Drive. Drive to the end of Estates Drive and you will find Woodway Park which has 3 separate entrances, two to the right and one to the left at the end of Estates. Take one of the two final entrances to see views of the lake, picnic areas, playgrounds, and a big disc golf course.
4. Backtrack up Estates Drive and turn right on Lake Forest (before you get back to the 3-way stop) and you will find a newer subdivision under construction with houses in your price range.
5. Backtrack back to the 3-way stop in front of the Woodway Family Center and turn right onto Estate Drive and drive all the way to the traffic light next to the Walgreens where you will turn right onto US-84. You can stay on the access road and not enter 84 or enter and then exit at the next exit Which is Ritchie Road or Wickson. Turn right into the Badger Ranch subdivision which is a higher-end newish master-planned subdivision. Prices here start at about the top of your price range. Drive around Badger Ranch, you might see a model home, I'm not sure if they still have one to see what higher-end newer housing is like in the Woodway area.
6. Backtrack to US-84 and continue further down and you'll see the entrance to another big subdivision called Twin Rivers. The big gate in front says Bear Ridge Golf Club which is next door. It is another area with lots of new construction in the $350-$550+ range.
7. There are a lot of other subdivisions you can poke around in if you want to. Get the realtor.com app if you want to search out houses. Otherwise turn left from US-84 at the only traffic light onto Old Lorena Rd (FM2837) and this will take you all the way back to I-35.
This tour of the Waco area will take you through most of the nicer newer neighborhoods but will skip downtown and the Baylor area which is not really all that interesting and you'll drive right by it on the way back to MN.
03-29-2015, 03:41 PM
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Thank you DeerRidge and texasdiver, appreciate the advice. It looks like we managed to cover most of that area while we were there. We buzzed through on our way down to Austin, spent an entire day there being shown around by his potential employers and their wives, and then also went around again on our way back up North. I can see what people mean about some issues in Waco proper---it looks like there is some urban blight and some neighborhoods that have seen much better days. But I can also see a lot of potential in the suburbs (given that we live in the country now, being close to an HEB and a Target sounds dreamy to me) and you can't argue with the location--Waco is in a great spot in the state.
So at this point, it looks like this may actually happen. The lawyers and accountants have been negotiating like maniacs the last couple weeks since we visited Waco and my husband has a job if he wants it. His office would be in Woodway and that is where we are looking. We are finding ourselves attracted by the mature trees of older Woodway but nervous about having an older house. Our current home is a custom build from 2011 and we also built our previous house so we're used to new homes. Which leaves newer Woodway in contention. It will just come down to the right combo of house/trees/location/etc.
Next question---anyone know a good realtor they would recommend? Someone who works in Woodway, of course. Someone nice, ethical, good at returning phone calls. We don't need a shark--my husband is an excellent negotiator and I was a mortgage underwriter so we're not newbies at the process. Just newbies at Woodway.
We're flying down for a long weekend in April and hoping to see some houses and if the right one pops up, we'll move on it. I don't think we can name names here, but a direct message would be appreciated if you can recommend someone.
Again, thanks for the tips.
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03-29-2015, 04:05 PM
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I don't have a specific realtor to recommend. Coldwell Banker/Jim Steward and Kelly Realtors are the two big firms in town that most of the agents are with. Last time we got one of the big name guys who's name is on the business and that was kind of a mistake because he was obviously too busy to spend a lot of time with us. We ended up switching to a different agent over memorial day weekend 2008 when we wanted to spend the weekend shopping and our guy was too busy. This is a pretty small market at your price range. You should probably be able to visit every single house in Woodway that fits your criteria in a weekend. Then it's simply a matter of deciding which one. There are a few new construction houses in the older part of Woodway scattered about. But most of the new construction will be further south on 84 starting with Badger Ranch and then continuing to Twin Rivers, Hidden Valley, Riverside, and Stone Creek Ranch. If you want newer construction at your price point, those are going to be your 5 primary subdivisions. Unless you find something you like in the old section of Woodway. Personally I'd go for Badger Ranch as it is a lot closer. Traffic getting out of Twin Rivers and Hidden Valley onto 84 in the mornings can be a bit congested because everyone has to take an unprotected left turn onto Speegleville Road which is busy in the a.m. and then take another left onto 84 at the light. There are eventual plans to put an overpass at the intersection of Speeglevile Road and 84 but until that ever gets done, morning traffic is going to be increasingly difficult due to all the new construction and growth.
03-29-2015, 09:27 PM
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2. Turn left on Bosque Blvd and continue, passing under Highway 6 (which is the dividing line between Waco and Woodway). This is the older part of Woodway, the nicer houses are not right along Bosque. Continue on Bosque until you get to a 3-way stop sign. To the left is the Arboretum which is worth a quick stop if you want to stretch your legs on some short trails among the flowers. It is free.
A small detail but I think you mean to turn right on Bosque Blvd. if you are coming from Lake Shore Dr. onto Valley Mills. If you turn left onto Bosque Blvd. you go past the Extraco Events Center then you're entering an unpleasant side of town.
03-29-2015, 10:36 PM
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A small detail but I think you mean to turn right on Bosque Blvd. if you are coming from Lake Shore Dr. onto Valley Mills. If you turn left onto Bosque Blvd. you go past the Extraco Events Center then you're entering an unpleasant side of town.
Yes...you are absolutely right. My bad. That post is too old and I can't go correct it so if anyone else is reading this thread take note of this correction. Also the arboretum is on the right not the left as you drive down Bosque.
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Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)