Texas - Government still stupid? Check.

[mikeyyc]

Originally Posted by sxrckr

The thread started as a mass insult to Texans and their elected officials.
Then quickly evolved into an idiotic and inaccurate moral equivalency completely off topic:

It seems there is more unjustified hatred of Texans and Christians in this thread than anything else.

Well, I am the OP and a Texan. If you think our Legislature hasn't been an embarassment over a number of years and multiple issues, maybe you haven't been watching.

I don't think anyone has openly bashed Texans, and I specifically explained my justification for the post, and last time I checked, we were still free to openly dissent about decisions made by any of our elected officials.

I haven't made a personal comment on any posters or elected officials as people, and the only comments I've seen made regarding Christians are in response to self-aggrandizing sanctimonious b.s. usually accompanied by disparaging remarks about other religions.

So what exactly was your issue again?

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by mikeyyc

Abbott: No Syrian refugees in Texas - Houston Chronicle

Find a way to validate your bigotry and blame Obama. Today is a good day for Texas Republicans.

I'm still waiting for the news media to call Abbott "Anti-constitutional"

[jerbear30]

Originally Posted by sxrckr

It seems there is more unjustified hatred of Texans and Christians with this thread than anything else.

Christians don't turn away refugees. If you call yourself a Christian and want turn away those Syrians with their kids, I think you need to get off City Data for a while and go back to your Bible.

[sxrckr]

Originally Posted by mikeyyc

Well, I am the OP and a Texan. If you think our Legislature hasn't been an embarassment over a number of years and multiple issues, maybe you haven't been watching.

I don't think anyone has openly bashed Texans, and I specifically explained my justification for the post, and last time I checked, we were still free to openly dissent about decisions made by any of our elected officials.

I haven't made a personal comment on any posters or elected officials as people, and the only comments I've seen made regarding Christians are in response to self-aggrandizing sanctimonious b.s. usually accompanied by disparaging remarks about other religions.

So what exactly was your issue again?

Really, you need it explained again?

You started out with a mass insult and name-calling (stupid, bigotry) and how dare anyone disagree with your Obama!

When people disagreed with you, you threw more insults.

Then you went completely off topic (inquisition, crusades).

Which reminds me, you still haven't answered my previous question: are you expecting crusaders and inquisitors to sneak in with the refugees and get you? I mean, because they are today's major terrorist force in the world, right?

[lonestar2007]

Originally Posted by TexasTallest

Im not going to go around living my life on a regular basis with an irrational fear of 1.6 billion people.

It's hard at times to comprehend what you mean with your words. Are you perhaps implying that people who don't have the same nonchalant attitude towards the recent terrorist attacks are going around living life on a regular basis with an irrational fear of 1.6 billion people and that you won't be one of them?

You have Muslim friends and you're championing them. OK, we get it.

You have a fascination with statistics and a love of math and have shown us all how you can reduce people's lives into mere stats. OK, we get it.

So, just out of morbid curiosity, let's just pretend we're some months down the road and you are sitting in a cafe having an ordinary dinner when the door bursts open and terrorists who later will be identified as being part of a group of Syrian refugees who were welcomed into our country begin shooting people at random. As they point their weapon at your head and just before they pull the trigger, I seriously doubt you are going to be thinking how ignorant people are to want to have some safety and security nets in place to prevent tragedies such as the one you are at the moment enduring. No, you are going to be just one more statistic, but look on the bright side, you are in such a minority that I would think it should make you feel so much better - right before the trigger is pulled. But actually. I'm thinking you would be sh*tting your pants in fear. Maybe you could tell the gunman you have Muslim friends and he would hug you rather than blow your brains out.

Your over simplification of what is happening in our world at this very moment is childish and although you are feverishly zealous in your behalf to convince the rest of us how foolish we are to be wary and cautious in our approach to the Syrian refugee problem, you should really know it doesn't all fit nicely into a cube of math equations and excuses for what has happened in the past centuries.

Oh yes, to refute in advance what I know is surely coming, you will be correct when you say we could each and everyone die at any given moment from just about anything. The difference here (as you would know if you could think rationally about this) is that sane people do their best to protect themselves from potentially dangerous situations, not embrace them.

While I might admire your bulldog mentality, I am really tired of it now. Overall, fanatics and zealots bore me to tears, so while you forged ahead championing your causes, I'll go straight ahead ignoring you and supporting the governors and all the people who want to use cautionary actions to prevent more tragedies on our soil.

[sxrckr]

Originally Posted by jerbear30

Christians don't turn away refugees. If you call yourself a Christian and want turn away those Syrians with their kids, I think you need to get off City Data for a while and go back to your Bible.

Intelligent, rational thinking people don't intentionally invite in potential danger until it's been vetted.
You do realize ancient cities had walls for a reason, right?

Are you a Christian? Or just an agnostic know-it-all who likes to lecture Christians about what they're supposed to think? Do you attend church? If you did, you'd probably know there are already several refugee programs churches in Texas are currently participating in. There are a lot of resettled refugees from India right now. Curious that you don't know this.

[mikeyyc]

Originally Posted by sxrckr

Really, you need it explained again?

You started out with a mass insult and name-calling (stupid, bigotry) and how dare anyone disagree with your Obama!

When people disagreed with you, you threw more insults.

Then you went completely off topic (inquisition, crusades).

Which reminds me, you still haven't answered my previous question: are you expecting crusaders and inquisitors to sneak in with the refugees and get you? I mean, because they are today's major terrorist force in the world, right?

I'm sure in your mind, you're making perfect sense, but I can assure you, you're not. If you want to have a conversation, by all means let's have it.

As far as comments regarding the crusades, I believe it was a specific response to a specific post, not a general comment. To take a one line quote in a thread with scores of posts and expect a justification for each one is a bit of a challenge, and runs contrary to the point of the thread. It sounds like you feel that you need a specific response to feel justified and win instead of having a discussion.

Congratulations; you "win". I totally am overwhelmed by your logic and sound, factual based comments. Well done, you have won the internet today and shouted down someone you disagreed with. It's Miller Time (tm)

[lonestar2007]

Originally Posted by mikeyyc

Congratulations; you "win". I totally am overwhelmed by your logic and sound, factual based comments. Well done, you have won the internet today and shouted down someone you disagreed with. It's Miller Time (tm)

Ah, conceding with sarcasm. So typical.

[mikeyyc]

Originally Posted by lonestar2007

Ah, conceding with sarcasm. So typical.

It's actually condescending.

Unless you actually meant conceding with sarcasm, but I'm not sure how the "so typical" applies. Good of you to edit out the other points though.

[Gunion Powder]

I say let them in. But I'm a real Christian, so that's why I feel that way.