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Old 02-09-2008, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Trans-Pecos Texas
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I remember that election, and Ann Richards to into office because her opponent, Clayton Williams, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory! LOL

He was extremely uninformed on the issues when it came to a head to head debate (when asked, he didn't know what "Proposition One" was) and made some really politically embarrasing statements that caused his one time far lead to plumet to nothing. It is revealing though, that Ann Richards lost in the next election to a Republican opponent who, at the time, espoused a very conservative line. George Bush! LOL

There IS something to be said though so far as Texas, if hispanic migration (legal and illegal) continues at the rate it has, becoming a swing state, IF the said demographic group continues to lean toward the democratic party. Otherwise, Texas will remain part of the Solid South (once democratic and now republican). That is to say, a red state...if by red one means conservative. .
Red denotes Republican to me, and not always conservative.

And Claytie REALLY did screw up big time with his big mouth, too. When I heard what he had said out at a hunting camp in mixed company, I sort of figured he'd had it at that point, LOL!! He is SO typical in that regard, and he is NOT a politician!
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Old 02-09-2008, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Trans-Pecos Texas
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Now, I REALLY admired Ann Richards... what a truely gritty Texas lady! She knew how to work that good 'ole boy Texas political network!

And, some of her quotes will always be my favorites, like the one she said in the keynote address to the Democratic National Convention in 1988 by suggesting that George Bush was 'born with a silver foot in his mouth.' LoL! How well has that held true?!

This one, however, remains my all-time favorite, "These things I do despise... hypocrisy, lies and anything at all that denies the light in children's eyes."

Pretty much says it all... truely, a lady before her time!
She did have to fight some really hard battles to get where she did.....you couldn't help liking her....and I would have liked to have had lunch with her.

BUT....her politics were SO liberal that I couldn't ever have voted for her. I held my nose and voted for Claytie, even with all the gaffes and lack of attention to the issues.

I think that if he had won, he would have learned very fast. Claytie may have a mouth on him, but he's no dummy.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:30 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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She did have to fight some really hard battles to get where she did.....you couldn't help liking her....and I would have liked to have had lunch with her.

BUT....her politics were SO liberal that I couldn't ever have voted for her. I held my nose and voted for Claytie, even with all the gaffes and lack of attention to the issues.

I think that if he had won, he would have learned very fast. Claytie may have a mouth on him, but he's no dummy.
Cathy:

I am curious (seriously not being sarcastic) as to what was SO liberal about Richards. Now, I will confess, not being Texan, I didn't know very much about her and had to Google. Nothing I found indicated anything extreme - she seemed pretty moderate. Care to share?
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Old 02-09-2008, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Trans-Pecos Texas
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Cathy:

I am curious (seriously not being sarcastic) as to what was SO liberal about Richards. Now, I will confess, not being Texan, I didn't know very much about her and had to Google. Nothing I found indicated anything extreme - she seemed pretty moderate. Care to share?
Dang. You're making me have to think....LOL!!! That was almost 20 years ago!

She did some good during her term, I'll not deny that--the requirement for insurance (for tags, licences, etc.) for Texas drivers, for one.

Her anti-gun stance and her educational reforms (the much-hated and grossly unfair Robin Hood school funding issue, which STILL isn't resolved beyond being found unconstitutional) are mostly what I remember. Her "site-based management" looked good on paper (and didn't come about until long after I had left the profession)...but it translated to more after-school time in idiotic, meaningless committee meetings at which very little of any value was accomplished, according to relatives and friends who were still there.

To many of us that grew up in very conservative West Texas, she was anathema to us as far as her politics went, and I cannot even remember now what else I didn't like...I just remember thinking at the time that she was an ultra-liberal who backed ultra-liberal causes.

Since you were raised in Europe (correct me if I'm wrong)...and are now in CA, I think she would appear moderate to you, while she would not to me.

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Old 02-09-2008, 02:37 PM
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Red denotes Republican to me, and not always conservative.

And Claytie REALLY did screw up big time with his big mouth, too. When I heard what he had said out at a hunting camp in mixed company, I sort of figured he'd had it at that point, LOL!! He is SO typical in that regard, and he is NOT a politician!
True. And again, Republican does not always = conservative. In fact, I would be hard pressed to name a political figure extant who is truly conservative by my own definition...

LOL Yeah, that remark about "being serviced". Oh gawd! But yep too, a man doesn't make a 100 million dollars being an idiot. And he DID have some GREAT ideas. And further, it is probably to his credit he wasn't a good politician!

Off on a tangent? Y'all take this test, if you are interested, to gauge your political ideology. And be SURE to use the "sliding scale" below each question to indicate how high a priority you put on the said question. It has a lot to do with the scoring!

I am a Paleo-Conservative according to the quiz. I agree!

▷▷ Ideology Selector (it's a SelectSmart.com Politics selector. Keywords: Politics selectors recommend match quizzes tests)
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Old 02-09-2008, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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True. And again, Republican does not always = conservative. In fact, I would be hard pressed to name a political figure extant who is truly conservative by my own definition...

LOL Yeah, that remark about "being serviced". Oh gawd! But yep too, a man doesn't make a 100 million dollars being an idiot. And he DID have some GREAT ideas. And further, it is probably to his credit he wasn't a good politician!

Off on a tangent? Y'all take this test, if you are interested, to gauge your political ideology. And be SURE to use the "sliding scale" below each question to indicate how high a priority you put on the said question. It has a lot to do with the scoring!

I am a Paleo-Conservative according to the quiz. I agree!

▷▷ Ideology Selector (it's a SelectSmart.com Politics selector. Keywords: Politics selectors recommend match quizzes tests)
Im a Thirdway
then a radical
then a liberal
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Old 02-09-2008, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Trans-Pecos Texas
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True. And again, Republican does not always = conservative. In fact, I would be hard pressed to name a political figure extant who is truly conservative by my own definition...

LOL Yeah, that remark about "being serviced". Oh gawd! But yep too, a man doesn't make a 100 million dollars being an idiot. And he DID have some GREAT ideas. And further, it is probably to his credit he wasn't a good politician!

Off on a tangent? Y'all take this test, if you are interested, to gauge your political ideology. And be SURE to use the "sliding scale" below each question to indicate how high a priority you put on the said question. It has a lot to do with the scoring!

I am a Paleo-Conservative according to the quiz. I agree!

▷▷ Ideology Selector (it's a SelectSmart.com Politics selector. Keywords: Politics selectors recommend match quizzes tests)
Yep....I got the same thing.
I was conservative even in HIGH school.....LOL!! I tried being a liberal for about 20 minutes once, and decided that it was not me....
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Old 02-09-2008, 05:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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True. And again, Republican does not always = conservative. In fact, I would be hard pressed to name a political figure extant who is truly conservative by my own definition...

LOL Yeah, that remark about "being serviced". Oh gawd! But yep too, a man doesn't make a 100 million dollars being an idiot. And he DID have some GREAT ideas. And further, it is probably to his credit he wasn't a good politician!

Off on a tangent? Y'all take this test, if you are interested, to gauge your political ideology. And be SURE to use the "sliding scale" below each question to indicate how high a priority you put on the said question. It has a lot to do with the scoring!

I am a Paleo-Conservative according to the quiz. I agree!

▷▷ Ideology Selector (it's a SelectSmart.com Politics selector. Keywords: Politics selectors recommend match quizzes tests)
Are you surprised?

1. Liberal
2. Third Way
3. Radical

I had to look up their definition of "radical." I have never considered myself a radical (although you might disagree LOL).
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Old 02-09-2008, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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Are you surprised?

1. Liberal
2. Third Way
3. Radical

I had to look up their definition of "radical." I have never considered myself a radical (although you might disagree LOL).
any idea what a third way is?
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:13 PM
 
Location: San Antonio-Westover Hills
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Here's me, no surprise:

#1 Paleoconservative

#2 Neoconservative

#3 Conservative

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