04-21-2017, 02:09 PM
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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TexasHorseLady
Looking at the thread title, it's obvious that it is a question that cannot truly be answered. After all, we're talking about a state of some 26,000,000 and growing population.
Well for what its worth we could be a state of only 26 persons and there would be polarization. Most residents have opinions on this.
Unfortunately it (the thread) drifted from that original subject into national politics, personal insults, condescension, innuendos, and baseless opinions.
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04-21-2017, 03:16 PM
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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And interesting direction the thread went this last few posts with So what I gather if you're a small thinker and you have nothing then you resort to personal attack. Typical ploy of the Left. Reminds me of the Leftist media propaganda outlets, fake news (propaganda/lies) and personal insult.
Attacks at my manhood? Really??? My true Texan manhood???? I laughed heartily at that.
Again the horselady was behind the 8-ball with no substance just feigned indignance and veiled insults . Empty sack.
Build the wall, interrupt the flow of law breaking border crossing in any way possible. What nation on Earth doesn't protect its borders and monitor those coming into that nation? NONE!!!!!!!
04-21-2017, 03:56 PM
Location: Westbury
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Wall over land owners rights to land theyve paid for, had in their families for generations? They are the ones most affected, right? Lawsuits have already been filed agaibst the trump letters some families already received.
Eminent domain 1000s of miles of land, have tax payers fund 20-40 billions over 20 yrs, never actually build the wall = corporations/US government eventually sell the land for more than they paid the owners. That's the truth behind this wall BS
Everyone knows this wall is a pipedream. Even if it starts it wouldnt be finished until well after trump leaves the presidency and itll get killed then but land owners still will have lost their land
Wall will never get built and everyone knows it
Why else is the TX republican party, governor completely silent on this issue instead of down south on TV pushing for it
04-21-2017, 05:54 PM
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More backbone? Because I point out that incivility and boorishness do not reflect strength but, rather, it's exact opposite and are a clear indicator of over-compensating for various lacks? Well, bless your heart, hon. A truly strong man doesn't have to behave in the way that some are behaving here, and the need to do so is actually an indicator of a fear of being "browbeat" intellectually, something no truly strong man would consider a possibility.
Do you feel better now, "hon"? I truly hope so, bless your heart.
Let me ask if, as you say, "incivility and boorishness do not reflect strength but, rather, it's exact opposite and are a clear indicator of over-compensating for various lacks?" what do the traits of overbearing and condescending reflect upon a person's character? I almost added "hon" to the end of this question, but crap, I've already used it once to exploit my point and it's just not my style. But on the other hand, I hate to think the term condescending is going to fly right over your head and I know it is, so what the heck, I've been known to fight fire with fire, so why not, "hon"?
You should bear in mind that when you (male or female) use snarky remarks in an overbearing condescending tone, you open the door for retaliation regardless if it comes from a male or a female.
To try and act so shocked, like you are some shrinking violet, holding one hand to your bosom and the other hand on your forehead and saying, "Oh mah word, I cannot believe you could be such a cad" is downright laughable, "hon".
04-21-2017, 06:18 PM
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Don't want to get muddy? Best stay away from the mud slingin. Where's your common sense, boy? This thread has devolved into more than a church quiltin' bee if you haven't noticed.
I've been blount, I've not been uncivil. In the event I was insulted (which there have been more than a few insults aimed at me) then the rules change. This woman has definitely not presented herself a lady thus I matched her projected station. Not sure you are aware of what Texan is anyway, pilgrim.
Your weak effort at judging was, well, weak!
1. I am no boy, I am a woman. If I was a man and someone called me boy in public I would consider that fighting words.
2. You need to work on your spelling.
3. I am a 3rd + generation Texan and I was taught that Texans have manners that you have been lacking. They aren't necessarily Southern manners but they exist nevertheless.
04-22-2017, 12:24 AM
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http://www.texaslyceum.org/resources...%20Release.pdf
According to this recent poll, 61% of adult Texans oppose the wall...
Glad that Texans appear more sensible than Trump.
The wall will not only not solve immigration issues but likely make them worse: by further empowering the coyotes and narco-traffickers, creating further debt peonage, destabilizing Northern Mexico further, creating more impetus to flee to the United States.
As noted above, the eminent domain issues will be massive. The vast majority of the land along the border is privately owned.
Texans do not like it when the government tries to expropriate their land. Look what happened to Rick Perry's Trans Texas corridor.
There is no question that comprehensive immigration reform is needed, along with the changing of decades-long failure of war on drug policies which have not decreased drug use, and seriously exacerbated border issues... IF NAFTA has been bad for American workers, it has been disastrous for Mexican ones. A wall will not address any of these issues.
The wall will enrich the cronies of Trump who will make a nice bit of money by building it, and it will create the illusion that the problems are actually being addressed.
The wall is a medieval solution to a 21st century problem. I have hope that the majority of Texans are smart enough to see what a dumb and expensive an idea the wall is is
04-22-2017, 09:00 AM
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so whats your answer beside we need comprehensive immigration reform? thats just liberal speak allow them to stay - don't deport them - its wrong - etc etc etc
your next great idea will be drones - or tv cameras ? tell us how a drone of tv camera will arrest a illegals - then you will say we need more border patrol - then you will complain they are hurting them and its cruel to arrest them-
i bet you want to legalize drugs too -
if your going to complain about someones beliefs - back it up with a least minimal suggestions as to what YOU would do - thats the way have a proper debate -
walls to work - look at so calf in san diego - your going to tell us that its not working? yes some are going to dig - some are going to climb - but a wall is a hell of alot better that 2 pieces or barb wire -
next your going to say what about the river - nobody said a wall will be built there - thats just common sense -
property rights- lets see did you complain when land was taken for national highway systems? did you complain when the govt made national parks or monument status of the vast deserts so that nobody could use? the land - the land actually on the boarder may in fact be private owned - you make it sound like these land owners are going to loose their entire land -when in fact it will be a hundred feet at most-- as sometimes we have to do whats best for the entire nation - not just a few -
what about those land owners who's property is destroyed by the illegals? There are places in AZ and Calif where they spot signs in the parks do not camp there - not enter at night - thats not the america i want to live in- governments 1st role to protect the nation and the wall is part of that - even at the expense of a few-
04-22-2017, 01:31 PM
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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1. I am no boy, I am a woman. If I was a man and someone called me boy in public I would consider that fighting words.
Well, it was certainly evident by your screen name that you were a woman.
Fightin' words .... ha!
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tcualum
2. You need to work on your spelling.
I'll do corrections when you post a pic of your spelling police badge.
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tcualum
3. I am a 3rd + generation Texan and I was taught that Texans have manners that you have been lacking.
All hat and no cattle. I have both.
As stated, most folks have opinions ... that's just yours and means nothing ... just the same as name calling so go ahead and huff and puff. Your feigned indignation is empty.
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tcualum
They aren't necessarily Southern manners but they exist nevertheless.
You, woman, are not qualified to judge manners, just no gravitas. You're just one of the minions of keyboard ninjas .... pfffftttt!
01-23-2019, 12:34 AM
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Bob, this is one of very few threads I have read from start to finish. I must say you have spent a lot of time insulting others in support of 45’s wall.
Your use of this forum as a bully pulpit would make your mentor (45) happy. For those of you that attempted early on to reason with Bob, do not confuse him with facts, upsets his false narrative.
Proposed wall on Texas soil, Texans give up Land and access to Rio Grand water. Mexico will not pay for the wall, Texans waste their tax dollars. 45 wins Texans do not. Sounds about right for a red state.
Bob, I am reminded of something my old pappy told me long ago. He said that you can educate the dumb folks, you can support the special need folks, but you just cannot fix stupid. Sorry to say I think pop would have put you in the last category.
If you must respond, go to it. But just know this, I believe that the last category is sadly true. Thus I will not come back to this thread to read any more or respond.
01-25-2019, 09:27 AM
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Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)