Dallas v. Houston - which is more "liberal"? (Austin: house, college)

[Spade]

Originally Posted by Spree

>> The suburbs however are much more conservative and like to look at Dallas as some sort of scary place where different people actually enjoy each other's company and don't run and hide behind gates if there is a minority child sitting in the next desk.<<

Plano probably has the most diverse student population - we're not talking just blacks or hispanics, but Asian, Indian and more. I talked to someone from Plano who said that there are 40+ different languages represented in the Plano student population.

I heard from a friend that Plano, while still conservative, is not nearly as conservative as it use to be and is losing it's conservative ways (not saying anything is wrong with being conservative at all).

[harrygrath]

Boston & SF r bastions of leftism..

Their hobby is to hold (invalid ) antigun referendums , paroling murderers. & asking ...$300 K for studios...

But then again,there was that German,von Mazoch the name,he enjoyed pain...

[raychelleeliz]

Originally Posted by mickeyinKATY

HOUSTON is the more liberal of the two I think. I have lived in both places. I am from Houston (katy) and all you have to do is look at Houston City government. Houston is not near as conservative as Dallas.

I am actually from Katy myself and personally I don't really find either city too different in terms of political stance. Both are major urban areas, and with that tends to come a more liberal stance. Once you spread to the suburbs, it's a different thing.

If you plan on living in the actual city, I would choose Houston, just because I am from the area and yes, it can be on the liberal side - by Texas standards, which sometimes isn't very liberal at all.

If you plan on living in the suburbs around the city, I would choose Dallas. Growing up in a Houston suburb [Katy] I have found that people are on the particularly conservative and closed-minded side, which personally bothers me.

If you're looking for a truely liberal city in Texas...go to Austin.

[Spade]

^^ I just disagree with that. I think Dallas and Houston are just as liberal as Austin. The Inner loop would give Austin a run for it's money. Especially when you visit areas around Rice U. SMU is about the only conservative part of the city of Dallas. But Oak Lawn also would give Austin a run for it's money.

Also, the entire Austin area isn't liberal. Williamson County is equal to Collin County in terms of conservative areas.

[coog78]

Houston definitely has a much larger gay population than Dallas and is highly visible in Montrose, Heights, Midtown, Museum District, Rice Village, and the Galleria. The inner loop of Houston is extremely liberal, with the suburbs being conservative.

Dallas is not drastically different. Their city core is extremely liberal and the suburbs become more conservative.

As a Houstonian, I believe our suburbs are more conservative because they have not yet reached the mega suburb size of say, Plano. Plano is almost its own metro.

For all the d vs. H arguments, the cities are similar, except Houston is much more international, partly due to industries and location. Dallas is more Midwestern then Texan, also due to industries and location.

I think both cities and counties will be going Obama this year.

[coog78]

I also would highly disagree that Austin is more liberal then either Houston or Dallas. If you take out the University of Texas, Austin suddenly leans moderate or even conservative.

You get the big city feel in Houston and Dallas that Austin just doesn't accomplish. Oaklawn in Dallas and Montrose in Houston far surpass the most liberal Austin could ever offer. In terms of most liberal in Texas it is Oaklawn vs. Montrose and I give Montrose a slight edge, but very very slight.

[love roses]

Having lived in Houston and now near Austin, I'll second coog. Austin isn't so much liberal as it is libertarian.

[Lakewooder]

Why in the world would you say Dallas is midwestern?

[tstone]

Midwestern meaning much of the area (to the north) looks kinda like Kansas or Oklahoma.

[artsyguy]

LOL you are right. Take out UT and Austin is pretty much an uptight and boring conservative city.

Why do you give MONTROSE the edge over oaklawn or (dallas gayborhood)? You do know Dallas has gay bars on greenville avenue, maple, and lemmon, and some clubs in fort worth.

Originally Posted by coog78

I also would highly disagree that Austin is more liberal then either Houston or Dallas. If you take out the University of Texas, Austin suddenly leans moderate or even conservative.

You get the big city feel in Houston and Dallas that Austin just doesn't accomplish. Oaklawn in Dallas and Montrose in Houston far surpass the most liberal Austin could ever offer. In terms of most liberal in Texas it is Oaklawn vs. Montrose and I give Montrose a slight edge, but very very slight.