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Old 07-20-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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I only asked as last week at a picnic, an Asian friend's son mentioned his annoyance at people always asking, where are you from? When he says Texas, they push with, ... but originally where are you from?

He was born and raised here, never even been to Korea, his dad came here for undergrad when he was 17. He loved Texas, after med school graduation got hired and given a green card. He stayed here, became citizen, got married, had kids, considers it home. His kid says he feels identity crisis when people question his Texanness.
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Old 07-20-2017, 07:47 PM
 
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I can't see how anyone could confuse what NATIVE Texan means, of course were you born in TEXAS? Case CLOSED, lol IM HUMBLE OPINION
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Old 07-20-2017, 08:30 PM
 
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I can't see how anyone could confuse what NATIVE Texan means, of course were you born in TEXAS? Case CLOSED, lol IM HUMBLE OPINION
Texan is a state of mind, not a nationality.

Some are just born in the wrong nation. That is exactly what this Republic was founded upon - a streak of independence, individuality, togetherness, resilience and a shot of stubborn.
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Old 07-20-2017, 08:38 PM
 
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So. By that logic. Bowie, Crockett and the vast majority of the defenders of the Alamo weren't Texans. Good to know, glad they fought for the freedom of the Republic anyway.

The ethos of Texas has always been that you were welcome with open arms if you were here to be a Texan.
The poster said the person would not be a Native Texan, not that the person would not be a Texan.
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:05 PM
 
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The poster said the person would not be a Native Texan, not that the person would not be a Texan.
Considering at that time, there wasn't a Texas. Wouldn't that make them all not native?

End result is still the same. There's no difference between a Texan and a Native Texan - its like being an islander, it's a state of mind.
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Old 07-20-2017, 09:47 PM
 
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Considering at that time, there wasn't a Texas. Wouldn't that make them all not native?
Incorrect. In 1836, Texas was very much in existence. It was a state in Mexico from 1821, when Mexico gained its independence from Spain.

If you are claiming that Texas was not yet an independent nation, it's also not correct. Texas declared its independence on 2 March 1836, four days before the Alamo fell.
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Old 07-20-2017, 10:48 PM
 
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Incorrect. In 1836, Texas was very much in existence. It was a state in Mexico from 1821, when Mexico gained its independence from Spain.

If you are claiming that Texas was not yet an independent nation, it's also not correct. Texas declared its independence on 2 March 1836, four days before the Alamo fell.
Yet they did not win that independence until San Jacinto. I'd wager dollars to donuts that there were many that fought for Texas that were not born in Texas, that is irrefutable fact.

Premise remains. What makes you a Texan? In my view as someone born to Texans... it's the ethos and beliefs, not where you happen to be when you were born.

My father was 4th or 5th generation Texan/Mexican/Aztec (we haven't figured it out yet, just know he has kin at Goliad) but he was 85% Celtic when we did the 32 and me. Does that make him Irish?
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:06 AM
 
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My father was 4th or 5th generation Texan/Mexican/Aztec (we haven't figured it out yet, just know he has kin at Goliad) but he was 85% Celtic when we did the 32 and me. Does that make him Irish?
Your dad is a Texan and an American. Being descended from Celts doesn't make him Irish, Scot, or any of the other Celtic tribes. He's American.

I'm descended from Celts, Picts, Vikings and Cherokee. Nice to know where my ancestors came from. But I am native Texan and American. Period.

Back to the original premise:

"Native" means having been born in a certain locale.

Being Texan is a state of mind, whether native-born or not. If your mindset is Texan, you're a Texan.

It's just that simple.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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That's what I told him. You are a native because you were born here, you are a Texan because that's where your heart belongs, who cares what someone else thinks. It's between you and Texas.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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Native Texan = Someone born in the state of Texas.

Texan = moved to Texas and adopted the state of mind.
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