why are texans moving to colorado? (Lone Star: sales, car registration, vacation home)

[Thoreau424]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

My guess would be energy jobs. Denver has been an energy town since we used fossil fuels.

That's funny, because being amongst Coloradans, most absolutely loath the oil & gas companies. There's an almost universal hatred towards them, especially in the realm of fracking. I routinely hear of companies considering starting up offices in CO, but then get discouraged due to this, plus the high cost of living and operating a business in the Centennial State. Plus, the state income tax steals money from people each year, with no noticeable benefit. Compared to TX, CO seems anti-business. Only the people used to the state's tactics - thinking it normal - have no problem with it. There's also the hype factor that keeps the ball rolling, for awhile at least.

Denver is nowhere near being an "energy town" compared to Houston. Denver's more software, accounting, and stuff like that.

[Trainwreck20]

Well, it has a lot of energy business, although it has shrunk a bit over the years:

Energy - The region is an energy powerhouse with fossil fuels and cleantech together employing 52,850 people at 3,230 companies. Further, the region ranks fourth for cleantech and sixth in fossil fuels employment concentration among the 50 largest metropolitan areas. (fossil fuels, -3.7%/20.7%; cleantech, 6%/20.4%)

Not that Tech/software isn't a bit part of the area and is the fastest growing:

Information Technology-Software - The region is a top location for young entrepreneurs and tech professionals, and ranks among the top regions that foster entrepreneurial growth. The region employs 54,580 workers in 5,180 companies and had the eighth-highest employment concentration out of the 50 largest metropolitan areas. (9.4%/27.5%)

http://www.metrodenver.org/research-...cluster-study/

https://www.bls.gov/regions/mountain...ary_denver.pdf

[Pilot1]

Originally Posted by Thoreau424

That's funny, because being amongst Coloradans, most absolutely loath the oil & gas companies. There's an almost universal hatred towards them, especially in the realm of fracking. I routinely hear of companies considering starting up offices in CO, but then get discouraged due to this, plus the high cost of living and operating a business in the Centennial State. Plus, the state income tax steals money from people each year, with no noticeable benefit. Compared to TX, CO seems anti-business. Only the people used to the state's tactics - thinking it normal - have no problem with it. There's also the hype factor that keeps the ball rolling, for awhile at least.

Denver is nowhere near being an "energy town" compared to Houston. Denver's more software, accounting, and stuff like that.

I agree that Houston is more of an Energy town than Denver, but that doesn't mean Energy is not a HUGE factor in Denver, and Colorado's economy.

The nine-county Metro Denver and Northern Colorado region ranked fifth for fossil fuels energy employment and fourth among the nation's 50 largest metros for cleantech employment concentration in 2016. Overall, the energy industry cluster employs 52,850 people in the area.

Metro Denver Energy Industry | Metro Denver


So while the Progressives in Colorado may be vocal, and against fossil fuels, the bottom line is that Energy is a significant economic multiplier in the state.

[Thoreau424]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

Metro Denver Energy Industry | Metro Denver

So while the Progressives in Colorado may be vocal, and against fossil fuels, the bottom line is that Energy is a significant economic multiplier in the state.

Denver media is ALWAYS tooting it's horn, and celebrating the city, even when the information is highly inaccurate. It all just goes back to the hype factor that is so Colorado these days. Lots of talk, lots of praise, lots of high-fiveing, without substance and delivering the goods. I've seen it all up close and person. It's a farce. People also are always conning each other into believing the hype, to justify the high costs, the low attention to fixing infrastructure, etc. No one's supposed to think about what is actually going on, or peer behind the curtain. Traffic builds and builds and no changes are ever made. People are just to be lemmings and be submissive, since they're living in the ultimate gloryland.

[Trainwreck20]

Umm, yeah, good info there? I happen to know several people personally in O&G, and they work for big companies. I guess they are all acting, as well, and it is part of the local chamber of commerce conspiracy?

[rynetwo]

The thread is very hysterical.

Colorado is growing slower than two Texas metros on their own. Texans might be moving to CO but it is not in droves.

Last year population growth

CO +91,726

Houston +125,005

Dallas +143,345

[CptnRn]

Originally Posted by willc86

No im not being rude or fussy about everyone moving here. I am just legit-ly curious what is bringing everyone to colorado? I thought Texas was the place to be at! I actually wanted to retire and/or move to texas one day, but seeing everyone from Texas is moving to Colorado, i am thinking maybe there is something I am missing?

No I am not one that is mad that people keep moving here, in the contrary, it is good for the economy! I am just genuinely curious what is bringing them here? Is it the mountains or low cost of living? maybe a perk I dont know of? Sorry if I came off the wrong way on asking "why a lot of texans moving here" no no no. I am really curious! not fussy about it ha ha.

Your post reminded me that even way back in 1977 when I moved from Denver, Co to Austin, TX, people in Colorado were complaining about the number of Texan's that were moving to CO.

It made me wonder if this was actually true, most transplants coming from TX, as I'd never seen any statistics to substantiate that. So I did a web search and found this article from 2016 which listed the top 29 places that most transplants to Denver came from. Where Are Transplants Moving to Denver From? Here Are the Top 29 Places | Westword

I realize that this article is not totally conclusive for 'Colorado', but it yielded some interesting results for Denver. In looking over the numbers and doing some math they indicated that the highest number of transplants were actually coming from California (8,282), with the second highest number coming from Texas (6,351).

It occurred to me that both of those states have the highest populations of people compared to all of the other 50 states. So if all other things were equal, we would expect these states to also be contributing the highest number of transplants to Denver.

This lead me to question what those percentages were when compared to the population of each state. Interestingly enough I found that neither Texas or California were contributing the highest percentage of their states populations in moves to Denver. When looking at some those percentages this is what I found:

Total California: 8,282 = 0.0211006278035 %
Total Texas: 6,351 = 0.0227939995254 %
Total Wisconsin: 1,457 = 0.0252132483593 %
Total Minnesota: 1,476 = 0.0265728957903 %
Total Arizona: 2,834 = 0.0408883417873 %

[2008user]

Depends though.
Southern Texas gets too hot and lots of hurricane
Northern Texas gets tornado and even hurricane. Climate tends to be more extreme in the north

[Thoreau424]

Originally Posted by 2008user

Depends though.
Southern Texas gets too hot and lots of hurricane
Northern Texas gets tornado and even hurricane. Climate tends to be more extreme in the north

Eastern Colorado gets hit with tornadoes, being an extension of the plains (and tornado alley to the east). It would get more news if the land wasn't so thinly populated.

Some say that Colorado as a whole gets "too cold". Depends on what matters to you...

[madrone2k]

My take on the comment by 2008user is: Southern Texas gets too hot and ... Northern Texas gets too hot also and colder in the winter. Lots of brown, dead grass, in contrast the the green grass of south Texas :-)

On the Colorado angle, I remember visiting Colorado many times in the 70s, when Texans were the most hated outsiders. (I rode a ski lift with a young woman who asked me where I was from. She then advised me not to tell anyone I was from Texas. Turned out, she had moved there from Texas.) I suspect that many of the Texas-haters there moved there from Texas, sadly.

Fortunately for us Texans, Coloradans turned their contempt toward Californians as they started moving there en masse "bringing their gang-member kids with them", as some Coloradans said.