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Old 10-30-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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I can see that. I will say I still the rivalry is more of thing in Houston on the whole, but the times I have heard Dallasites get competitive with Houston, its had more to do with economics.
Psychologically it makes sense. People get worked up about the areas they are deficient. If you know you're better at something, there is little incentive to argue.

The psychology of one sided rivalries is fascinating though. I went to Tennessee for grad school and they think of Georgia and Florida as their rivals. Georgia and Florida don't see it the same way at all, especially Florida. For UF, Tennessee is just another team they play, whereas Georgia and FSU are their true rivals.
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Old 10-31-2018, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Dallas pays no attention to Houston.... right...

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/c...impressed-next
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Old 10-31-2018, 07:36 AM
 
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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Dallas pays no attention to Houston.... right...

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/c...impressed-next
Well I think everyone took note of that.

Houston was the largest city by far to not be considered...in fact the only top 10 metro not included. The fact that both Austin and Dallas made the cut but not Houston didn't is pretty clearly a slap in the face.

So yeah, the Dallas media took the cheap shot lol

https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-cul...t-amazons-hq2/

https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/01...-grief/550865/
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Old 10-31-2018, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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Well I think everyone took note of that.

Houston was the largest city by far to not be considered...in fact the only top 10 metro not included. The fact that both Austin and Dallas made the cut but not Houston didn't is pretty clearly a slap in the face.

So yeah, the Dallas media took the cheap shot lol

https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-cul...t-amazons-hq2/

https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/01...-grief/550865/
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Call it a Texas-sized wake-up call, a blow to the collective ego — and one that was taken seriously.
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Old 10-31-2018, 08:08 AM
 
Location: 78745
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I agree with the OPs analysis. I found the sports thing amusing. Houstonians think they have a sports rivalry with Dallas, but I'm not sure the feeling is reciprocated. The NFL is the starkest example - there are almost no Texan fans outside of Houston metro..
That will change if the Texans come up with winning team that makes the playoffs nearly every year. The Cowboys are almost always one of the top contenders in the NFL for a championship. They have a fan base that stretches clean across the country, probably more so than any other NFL team. They aren't called "America's Team" for nothing.. Because of that, everybody LOVES to beat the Cowboys. It's always a bigger deal for a team to beat the Cowboys than it is for the Cowboys to beat whatever team they happen to be playing. It's the same with the University of Texas Longhorns football team. The "big game" of the year for just about every team that plays UT is the UT game, be they Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, Houston Cougars, Rice, or North Texas, where as for UT, it's usually "just "another game".
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Old 10-31-2018, 08:58 AM
 
Location: "The Dirty Irv" Irving, TX
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That will change if the Texans come up with winning team that makes the playoffs nearly every year. The Cowboys are almost always one of the top contenders in the NFL for a championship. They have a fan base that stretches clean across the country, probably more so than any other NFL team. They aren't called "America's Team" for nothing.. Because of that, everybody LOVES to beat the Cowboys. It's always a bigger deal for a team to beat the Cowboys than it is for the Cowboys to beat whatever team they happen to be playing. It's the same with the University of Texas Longhorns football team. The "big game" of the year for just about every team that plays UT is the UT game, be they Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, Houston Cougars, Rice, or North Texas, where as for UT, it's usually "just "another game".
What planet do you live on? I love the Cowboys, be we aren't contenders at ALL since he 90s we miss the playoffs more way years than we make them. We haven't won a playoff game in the Dak era.

The fact remains, in the last couple decades the Texans have been the more successful team, but no cowboys fan is going to switch over to being a Texan's fan.

Same goes for the Longhorns. You would have to be drinking some pretty funky Austin water to think anyone has considered them contender for the last several years, this is the first year in a while they have been decent, but they sure aren't contenders.

Yes the Longhorns are a legendary program, but they haven't even won their Conference since 2009 when they lost the National Championship to Alabama.

Recently Just about everyone in the Big 12 has had to chance to beat up on them in the last several years, and I don't doubt Tech, Baylor etc have enjoyed it, but I'm not sure if they enjoy beating UT more than UT is embarrassed to keep putting up mediocre seasons.

As far as Houston, Rice, UNT etc, any time they play a power 5 school that is "The Big Game", so on the rare occasion they play Texas, yes, that is the big game, but not because they are "Rivals" it would be the same deal if they were playing OU or OSU or any SEC school....any power 5 school really.

I think you are overstating how many people consider UT "Rivals" big game for small non-conference team=/= Rivals. They have a bigger Rivalry with USC than any of the non big 12 Texas Schools, (TAMU aside)

You are right everyone likes to beat the cowboys, and even when we are bad our ratings are though the roof. In an era when we have Brady, Rodgers, and Brees, three future hall of famers, the Cowboys still have the best raitings in the NFL....and we are below .500 lol.
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Most folks have a love-hate relationship with the Cowboys and the Longhorns... I think that is the point the poster was making... even if they are not contenders it is still always sweet to beat those teams. I would also include the Aggies in the mix...
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Old 10-31-2018, 12:34 PM
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I would add that Houston visibly has more trees than Dallas. One of the things I missed living in Dallas was not seeing mature trees. Maybe it was because I relocated from Atlanta to Dallas, and trees were in an abundance in Atlanta.
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Old 10-31-2018, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Honestly most folks in Houston would have been surprised if Amazon had put us in their top 20. Generally we felt it was a long shot. The big factor is our tech labor market - ours just isn't a freewheeling one like you have in DFW and Austin. It's very much embedded in the O&G and health care sectors, and Amazon would have a really hard time competing with them for employees (especially given Amazon's not-so-great reputation for working conditions). So for us it very much highlighted that, for all the talk of economic diversification since the 1980s (and there truly has been at least a bit of it), we're still basically an O&G and health care town. At least we're the world capital of the former and a hugely important center of the latter (and there's a concerted effort to further grow and transform our role in the latter as well).
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Old 10-31-2018, 02:02 PM
 
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I would add that Houston visibly has more trees than Dallas. One of the things I missed living in Dallas was not seeing mature trees. Maybe it was because I relocated from Atlanta to Dallas, and trees were in an abundance in Atlanta.
Overall yes, but there are some pretty treeless parts of the Houston metro area. Unfortunately, I live in one of them and it's much uglier than DFW. But if you get up to the Woodlands or Conroe, its significantly prettier than DFW. And once you get past Conroe, there are thick trees AND some rolling hills.
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