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The reason why so many people turn their nose up at Arlington is that the only places they go to in Arlington are around the sports arenas and 6 Flags. Those areas are awful and if all I saw of Arlington was that I’d agree. There are some lovely and fun areas though such as River Legacy, downtown Arlington, and Interlochen.
Naw, I've seen all that. Downtown Arlington is just sad. It's like 2 blocks and over 50% of the surface area around Babes, The music hall etc is surface parking.
Old School Pizza and Suds, which is sadly nestled between a Wendys and Mcdonalds is actually a pretty cool bar, and of course Caves Lounge is among the best smokey dives in the metroplex. River Legacy is ok, I mean nothing to write home about, but It has some nice spots.
There are some really nice residential areas in Arlington, but I would sure hope so with like 400k people.
Naw, I've seen all that. Downtown Arlington is just sad. It's like 2 blocks and over 50% of the surface area around Babes, The music hall etc is surface parking.
Old School Pizza and Suds, which is sadly nestled between a Wendys and Mcdonalds is actually a pretty cool bar, and of course Caves Lounge is among the best smokey dives in the metroplex. River Legacy is ok, I mean nothing to write home about, but It has some nice spots.
There are some really nice residential areas in Arlington, but I would sure hope so with like 400k people.
For me, I love Arlington. I do like the idea that the downtown area is beginning to integrate itself with the UTA campus. Being a graduate from the university, I understand the issues that people have with it. Yeah, it's not like Dallas and Ft. Worth but I appreciate the gritty, working-class feeling it has.
For me, I love Arlington. I do like the idea that the downtown area is beginning to integrate itself with the UTA campus. Being a graduate from the university, I understand the issues that people have with it. Yeah, it's not like Dallas and Ft. Worth but I appreciate the gritty, working-class feeling it has.
I agree. Arlington has some really nice neighborhoods. Especially the western side. Yes, it’s extremely suburban but it is changing. I think being denied by Amazon was a wake up call for the city. Everything these posters are saying about Arlington may be true but to ignore this town strengths is downright absurd. Arlington gets an (A) when it comes to diversity, and inclusiveness something both Dallas and Fort Worth fall short in.
Fort Worth is a special place in Texas. It's on the same level as San Antonio. Those two are the two big city truest Texas cities. You go to those cities and you will know Texas.
AMEN!!!!! I say this all the time about San Antonio and Fort Worth being the two TRUEST Texas big Texas cities.
Fort Worth might not be on the same "tier" as Dallas in a lot of ways, but when people come to visit DFW and they want to get a feel for local Texas flavor and actually get an experience that feels unique to Texas, it's MUCH more fun and MUCH more "Texas" to take them to Fort Worth than it is to take them to Dallas.
AMEN!!!!! I say this all the time about San Antonio and Fort Worth being the two TRUEST Texas big Texas cities.
Fort Worth might not be on the same "tier" as Dallas in a lot of ways, but when people come to visit DFW and they want to get a feel for local Texas flavor and actually get an experience that feels unique to Texas, it's MUCH more fun and MUCH more "Texas" to take them to Fort Worth than it is to take them to Dallas.
I am a native Houstonian and I am ashamed to say I have never visited Fort Worth. I can see your point... I will put Fort Worth on my list of places to visit in Texas (of which there are still many!).
I remember the hissy fit Arlington threw about the "Skyline Jerseys" having the Dallas skyline on it, it was pretty hilarious. I mean what is their skyline, 6 flags? The Death Star?
Arlington wants to pretend they are a city in their own right, but really they are an overgrown suburb and the worst municipality over 400k in the US. I don't care what the bond ratings say, Arlington screwed up with their awesome position in the metroplex by trying to be a dog and pony show while the northern burbs snatched up HQs.
Ya, with 400k people you will have some jobs, but the vast majority of people in Arlington Commute to Dallas or Fort Worth for work, thats just a fact.
But yeah, Arlington isn't Dallas. It isn't Fort Worth either, I've never heard anyone in Arlington claim to "be Fort Worth", it's a burb between the two.
Spot on assessment. I really don't see how anyone who is honest with themself could disagree with any of this...
Arlington gets an (A) when it comes to diversity, and inclusiveness something both Dallas and Fort Worth fall short in.
I agree about diversity, but inclusiveness is heavily debatable. Most people would find Dallas and to a lesser extent Fort Worth more "inclusive" for people who are domestic transplants, LGBT, progressive, non-religious, etc. But even sticking with diversity, the beauty of those cultures are lost in an ugly sea of used car lots and strip malls. It's not just Arlington, but others areas such as Richardson's so-called Chinatown and northwest Dallas's so-called Koreatown. Houston also has the same problem. As the saying goes, "there's no there, there."
Another issue with Arlington, like so many other DFW suburbs, is its ego! It wants to be the "center" of DFW, especially with entertainment such as pro football, pro baseball, major amusement parks, etc, but offers 0 cohesiveness, public transit, or options beyond them. Going to a Rangers or Cowboys game is a horrible experience especially for visitors outside of DFW because they offer very little to do beyond them. Both Dallas & Fort Worth have the infrastructure, lodging, and entertainment in place for visitors before and after a game, yet the stadiums are in the middle of nowhere. Arlington should've built all of that BEFORE the Cowboys and Rangers moved to town, not after the fact. Once again, their EGO got in the way. Same thing with their bid for Amazon, which is absolutely ludicrous. They have next to 0 public transit or urbanity, yet are pitching to Amazon? Stop trying to pretend to be something you're not! It hurts DFW's image more than it enhances it.
Lastly, it's not just an issue with Arlington, although it's a major offender. Areas like Frisco are trying to be both the next Dallas, Plano, and Arlington! We have pro soccer and Cowboy's training camp up there. Their EGO certainly go in the way with their absolutely laughable proposal to Amazon. In fact, Frisco is worse than Arlington. At least Arlington is actually in-between Dallas & Fort Worth, with much closer proximity to DFW Airport.
This has got to stop, but I doubt it will. The downfall of DFW will be because of suburbs with huge egos, not the anchor cities.
I agree about diversity, but inclusiveness is heavily debatable. Most people would find Dallas and to a lesser extent Fort Worth more "inclusive" for people who are domestic transplants, LGBT, progressive, non-religious, etc. But even sticking with diversity, the beauty of those cultures are lost in an ugly sea of used car lots and strip malls. It's not just Arlington, but others areas such as Richardson's so-called Chinatown and northwest Dallas's so-called Koreatown. Houston also has the same problem. As the saying goes, "there's no there, there."
Another issue with Arlington, like so many other DFW suburbs, is its ego! It wants to be the "center" of DFW, especially with entertainment such as pro football, pro baseball, major amusement parks, etc, but offers 0 cohesiveness, public transit, or options beyond them. Going to a Rangers or Cowboys game is a horrible experience especially for visitors outside of DFW because they offer very little to do beyond them. Both Dallas & Fort Worth have the infrastructure, lodging, and entertainment in place for visitors before and after a game, yet the stadiums are in the middle of nowhere. Arlington should've built all of that BEFORE the Cowboys and Rangers moved to town, not after the fact. Once again, their EGO got in the way. Same thing with their bid for Amazon, which is absolutely ludicrous. They have next to 0 public transit or urbanity, yet are pitching to Amazon? Stop trying to pretend to be something you're not! It hurts DFW's image more than it enhances it.
Lastly, it's not just an issue with Arlington, although it's a major offender. Areas like Frisco are trying to be both the next Dallas, Plano, and Arlington! We have pro soccer and Cowboy's training camp up there. Their EGO certainly go in the way with their absolutely laughable proposal to Amazon. In fact, Frisco is worse than Arlington. At least Arlington is actually in-between Dallas & Fort Worth, with much closer proximity to DFW Airport.
This has got to stop, but I doubt it will. The downfall of DFW will be because of suburbs with huge egos, not the anchor cities.
I'd say that Collin County and NE Tarrant deserve to have an ego at this point, given that they're the most important center of economic growth in DFW, unquestionably. Are FW and Dallas just becoming urban amenity neighborhoods to CC/NET at this point?
AMEN!!!!! I say this all the time about San Antonio and Fort Worth being the two TRUEST Texas big Texas cities.
Fort Worth might not be on the same "tier" as Dallas in a lot of ways, but when people come to visit DFW and they want to get a feel for local Texas flavor and actually get an experience that feels unique to Texas, it's MUCH more fun and MUCH more "Texas" to take them to Fort Worth than it is to take them to Dallas.
Yeah I agree, like Fort Worth, San Antonio isn't the same "tier" as Dallas either, but if someone was wanting to visit a "Texas City", I would recommend San Antonio over Dallas, or Houston.
I agree about diversity, but inclusiveness is heavily debatable. Most people would find Dallas and to a lesser extent Fort Worth more "inclusive" for people who are domestic transplants, LGBT, progressive, non-religious, etc. But even sticking with diversity, the beauty of those cultures are lost in an ugly sea of used car lots and strip malls. It's not just Arlington, but others areas such as Richardson's so-called Chinatown and northwest Dallas's so-called Koreatown. Houston also has the same problem. As the saying goes, "there's no there, there."
Another issue with Arlington, like so many other DFW suburbs, is its ego! It wants to be the "center" of DFW, especially with entertainment such as pro football, pro baseball, major amusement parks, etc, but offers 0 cohesiveness, public transit, or options beyond them. Going to a Rangers or Cowboys game is a horrible experience especially for visitors outside of DFW because they offer very little to do beyond them. Both Dallas & Fort Worth have the infrastructure, lodging, and entertainment in place for visitors before and after a game, yet the stadiums are in the middle of nowhere. Arlington should've built all of that BEFORE the Cowboys and Rangers moved to town, not after the fact. Once again, their EGO got in the way. Same thing with their bid for Amazon, which is absolutely ludicrous. They have next to 0 public transit or urbanity, yet are pitching to Amazon? Stop trying to pretend to be something you're not! It hurts DFW's image more than it enhances it.
Lastly, it's not just an issue with Arlington, although it's a major offender. Areas like Frisco are trying to be both the next Dallas, Plano, and Arlington! We have pro soccer and Cowboy's training camp up there. Their EGO certainly go in the way with their absolutely laughable proposal to Amazon. In fact, Frisco is worse than Arlington. At least Arlington is actually in-between Dallas & Fort Worth, with much closer proximity to DFW Airport.
This has got to stop, but I doubt it will. The downfall of DFW will be because of suburbs with huge egos, not the anchor cities.
I agree. I never quite understood why the area around the stadiums stretching down into downtown Arlington isn’t more urban. That area should be a major business district in the region. Arlington also has the luxury of having a major Texas public institution in close proximity to what is suppose to be Arlington urban core. Arlington in general is very youthful. It should have a whole strip dedicated to bars and clubs catering to the college students and the young crowd. Arlington has all the ingredients for success but what continues to hold it back is it staunch opposition to public transportation and lack of vision to create a strong urban core. I’ve been a strong advocate for DART and Trinity Metro to merge to create a regional transportation authority. I also think this will put the needed pressure on Arlington to get on board with public transportation.
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