Texas reaches new population milestone 30 million! (Houston, Dallas: neighborhoods, taxi, property tax)

[ChristieP]

According to newly-released US Census data, Kaufman County is the fastest-growing county in the entire USA!
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2022...n-the-country/
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/ka...rea%20counties.
https://localtoday.news/mo/kaufman-c...ry-106247.html

[ParaguaneroSwag]

There are a couple of things that Texas is experiencing that mimic California. The population is getting diverse. A huge growing corporate presence in HOU and DFW. A San Jose style tech city in Austin. And our cities are getting larger.

That’s about it. And the things that I said are not California specific. They exist elsewhere. Texas is not going to mimic California. It will grow into its own thing as it’s been doing. It will be different than it used to be but it won’t be a California clone

[blameyourself]

Originally Posted by Zenstyle

Congestion = longer commutes, and annoying foot traffic

How is “foot traffic” annoying?Walkability is a desirable attribute.

Uh, I'm not talking about walking in regards to exercise (obviously that's desirable for people to do). I'm talking about literally having to dodge people so they don't walk into you just to go down the block. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, go visit Times Square in New York on a Friday night.

[LocalPlanner]

Originally Posted by blameyourself

Uh, I'm not talking about walking in regards to exercise (obviously that's desirable for people to do). I'm talking about literally having to dodge people so they don't walk into you just to go down the block. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, go visit Times Square in New York on a Friday night.

Um, how many places in the entire nation have that kind of pedestrian traffic, outside of special events? Very, very few, and except for the San Antonio Riverwalk and 6th Street in Austin on a Friday/Saturday night, I don't think it's something that should concern us. Walkability doesn't mean packed sidewalks, it just means mobility and destination accessibility can be accomplished easily, safely, and comfortably on foot.

[H'ton]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

There are a couple of things that Texas is experiencing that mimic California. The population is getting diverse. A huge growing corporate presence in HOU and DFW. A San Jose style tech city in Austin. And our cities are getting larger.

That’s about it. And the things that I said are not California specific. They exist elsewhere. Texas is not going to mimic California. It will grow into its own thing as it’s been doing. It will be different than it used to be but it won’t be a California clone

Wow!!
The Texas IS former California denial is strong by many of my fellow Texans.

How quickly we forget that California, in the 1970s- 1980s (if not earlier) was THE birthplace of the modern Pro growth, low restrictions, low infrastructure, trickle down economics form of Conservatism known as Reaganomics.

They used that pro-growth model to balloon their economy and their cities became sprawling messes due to their unbridled growth.

Wasn't there a joke about Los Angeles being a bunch of random communities looking for a city because the city planning mess was so visible.

Well...my Texas, during the boom times could have modeled themselves after any other state BUT they picked to mirror California's economic growth model EXACTLY.

The difference is that California started to realize the urban and social issues create by this model, around the turn of the century, and they decided to pull a sharp 180 on what they used to do.

Texas!?!? Let's keep this going but they WILL have to address their social and urban issues related to their growth strategies very soon.

You CAN'T keep sprawling in every direction, maxing out the grid, c heaping out on infrastructure and expect everything to remain ROSES because it will not work.


WE are already starting to see cracks..California, to their benefit, is trying to fix their issues.


Texas....crickets. In fact, they are DOUBLING DOWN...lol

[atadytic19]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

There are a couple of things that Texas is experiencing that mimic California. The population is getting diverse. A huge growing corporate presence in HOU and DFW. A San Jose style tech city in Austin. And our cities are getting larger.

That’s about it. And the things that I said are not California specific. They exist elsewhere. Texas is not going to mimic California. It will grow into its own thing as it’s been doing. It will be different than it used to be but it won’t be a California clone

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

CoL will increase if population increases faster than availability of resources, housing being one of those resources. What keeps Houston and DFW more affordable than Austin despite them being more than double the size is that they are alot more relaxed on building homes to meet growth demands. Austin could be more affordable if the city would be faster in approving building permits. As for traffic, once again, HOU & DFW were alot more relaxed about building infrastructure than AUS (which largely did its best to inhibit growth by not building infrastructure hoping it would steer people to not move there).

DFW and especially HOU will be practical places to live (in comparison to the premier cities) for a long time and its very unlikely that they will become Austin clones. As for California, it is its own animal of issues between land & resource scarcity, geography, building codes incorporating natural disasters (Earthquake's and wildfires) and policies ...

Texas isnt going to be a spitting replica of California.. the states are too different on too many levels .. but there will be some similarities... but California will outrank TX in affordability crisis for longer than I have left on this Earth short of a major crisis in the Pacific

Great posts.

Just because they follow similar paths doesn't mean they will end up in the same place. California is smaller than Texas and has a lot less developable Lans.

Texas has a slither of mountain range in the far west white California has ranges right down its spine. On top of that California has a lot more protected land

Look at LA. The land area is like 33,000 sq miles, but the people live in about 2000 sq miles because of the mountains and park lands. Compare that to Houston and DFW that can stretch to their hearts content.

Texas has far less limitations than California. Relying on simple growth plans and not considering resources is a fatal error in all these chicken little posts about doom and gloom for Texas. Texas may turn into California but it doesn't have to

[Redlionjr]

Originally Posted by brock2010

True. I think growth will continue in El Paso, Midland/Odessa, Lubbock out west, the Valley and Tyler or Longview in east Texas. Don't know if the growth in those areas will take off or just be modest.

Outside of Tyler, East Texas cities aren't really growing including Longview. And compared to suburban cities in the big 4 even a city like Tyler pales in comparison. Seems like cities like Midland and Lubbock have healthier growth more so even than Tyler.

If East Texas ever got out of it's own way when it comes to politics, religion and focus on more economic growth just from a geographical point of view I think it would be more ideal than West Texas cities. But again mentally outside of Tyler and even Tyler to an extent, East Texans just lack the innovation spirit and willingness to invite outsiders like other parts of Texas.

[blameyourself]

Originally Posted by LocalPlanner

Um, how many places in the entire nation have that kind of pedestrian traffic, outside of special events? Very, very few, and except for the San Antonio Riverwalk and 6th Street in Austin on a Friday/Saturday night, I don't think it's something that should concern us. Walkability doesn't mean packed sidewalks, it just means mobility and destination accessibility can be accomplished easily, safely, and comfortably on foot.

Then don't let it concern you. I've seen that type of growth happen first hand and it's a pain in the ass. The Austin area is definitely heading that way, whether you want to agree or not.

[Ivory Lee Spurlock]

If the current growth rates of Texas and California continue, Texas should pass California in population within the next 30 years.

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by brock2010

I'm hoping Texas learns not to repeat California's mistakes.

It's not California's mistakes. It's America's mistake.
That's the story of this country. Politician and their developer friends getting rich with unregulated growth with no planning and then everybody that lives there is stuck with the mess they left.