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Old 05-04-2023, 11:18 AM
 
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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But a republican is still going to win in Texas. People will vote Cruz just because they don't like Biden.
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It's crazy that Texas was a purple state until the mid 90s.
Most Texans still won't stand for woke BS although that number is dwindling as the young continue getting indoctrinated by the media and "educators" and the old sensible types with experience and savvy die off.

patience you full of wokeness crowd.
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Old 05-04-2023, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Says more about you than about Cruz. I suspect you'd vote for any Leftist no matter who they were running against as would the other woke leftist on this board. Content and political position doesn't matter. The blue dog lives!
You worship a guy under criminal indictment. It makes me feel good that people like you take issue with me.
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Old 05-04-2023, 11:27 AM
 
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Most Texans still won't stand for woke BS although that number is dwindling as the young continue getting indoctrinated by the media and "educators" and the old sensible types with experience and savvy die off.

patience you full of wokeness crowd.
What do you mean by woke? I like my sleep
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Old 05-04-2023, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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The political parties have seen a flip flop in ideology over time. Nowadays Republicans are like modern Yellow dog Democrats. You can have stooge politicians who strip all of their freedoms away and they’ll still vote for it and beg for more.

And I’m gonna leave that woke stuff alone. I don’t want to be associated with the scared whites who hijacked it but years later still can’t seem to define it.
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Old 05-04-2023, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I'll be voting enthusiastically for Colin Allred.
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Old 05-05-2023, 06:28 AM
 
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Agree 100%. The cities will narrowly support the Democrat candidates, but the smaller towns, and areas out west such as Midland-Odessa, Lubbock and Abilene will pull strongly for the Republican candidates.

Wendy Davis and Beto just as much of an embarrassment as you say Cruz is. Neither of them have even a remote chance of defeating Cruz.
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This.

People do not understand that when looking at metros the only one that is blue is Austin. All others are 50/50 or very close in either direction.
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Heard a pundit say that that is because the Texas Democratic party keeps highlighting the growing diversity and youth of Texas while at the same time they are not putting forward young minority candidates.

He claimed the last minority candidate was Ron Kirk 20 years ago, but that is not true.

I do agree with him that the big cities have not been strongly democratic, that is true, but I don't think it is because of the lack of minority candidates.

Beto did a good job of bringing out the Latino vote but I think his unwillingness to attack Cruz early and often.

I agree with everyone here that this is another Charlie Brown chasing tge football scenario. This is a general election year. The base is going to come out in droves for Trump in the rural areas and Cruz will ride his coattails. There will be a bigger than usual turn out for Allred in the major cities but the final tally will show that Cruz will be returning to Washington.

Cruz thus far has had lackluster fund raising. As soon as Allred announced Cruz started calling him a crazy liberal and asking for donations to stop the liberal agenda. I expect Cruz to be ob full attack mode by summer and the democrats are fooling themselves if they think they can play the same old "look at me, I am a Beto and I am a good guy who doesn't fling dirt" and expect to win.

The Democrats were in for a world of hurt last year before they started calling out the crazy. The Republicans portray themselves as champions for their followers while the democrats sit passively expecting everyone to just come out for them.

Unless the democrats own their positions and clobber their opponents they are not going to bring out who they need.
https://www.politico.com/2022-electi...ewide-offices/

Dallas County went 62.8%-36.0% for Beto. That's pretty blue.

Harris County went to Beto by 9.5 points.

Texas can absolutely turn blue, or at least purple. There's a reason Abbott and the Texas Senate are trying to make it so the Secretary of State can rerun elections in Harris County.

https://www.democracydocket.com/news...nty-elections/

And why the Texas Senate just passed a bunch of anti-voting bills.

https://www.democracydocket.com/news...-voting-bills/

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Old 05-05-2023, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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https://www.politico.com/2022-electi...ewide-offices/

Dallas County went 62.8%-36.0% for Beto. That's pretty blue.

Harris County went to Beto by 9.5 points.

Texas can absolutely turn blue, or at least purple. There's a reason Abbott and the Texas Senate are trying to make it so the Secretary of State can rerun elections in Harris County.

https://www.democracydocket.com/news...nty-elections/

And why the Texas Senate just passed a bunch of anti-voting bills.

https://www.democracydocket.com/news...-voting-bills/
Thing is that Texas won't be blue soon. But who knows what the future will hold.

In the 2020 election, Texas was more blue than Ohio. I don't think anyone would have seen that coming 10 years ago. Its a tug of war right now, the major cities are going more blue, the Valley is becoming more red, and the rest of the state hasn't changed much.

But I don't even want a blue Texas. I want a purple one. Right now, the leaders of this state run it like its 90/10 GOP to Democrat when in reality its 55/45. If they ran it like a right of center state, Id be good.

As for why the state hates Harris County, we represent everything they hate: moving quickly left, quickly diversifying, and were defiant to the leaders of the state when they encroach on us. Dallas is like this too but they give Dallas a pass. I think the reason for that is Dallas is the state relocation magnet. Because it is, they need Dallas to appear clean and with few problems as to continue to lure out of state businesses. Houston's growth is mostly international so they can use us as a punching bag and have someone to erroneously point to for all the problems the state has.

After all, Dallas has just as much crime as we do, they are bluer than we are, the minority populations are similar per capita, they have similar problems with corruption, etc. but the state never goes after them. There are reasons for that.

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Old 05-05-2023, 07:28 AM
 
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The political parties have seen a flip flop in ideology over time. Nowadays Republicans are like modern Yellow dog Democrats. You can have stooge politicians who strip all of their freedoms away and they’ll still vote for it and beg for more.

And I’m gonna leave that woke stuff alone. I don’t want to be associated with the scared whites who hijacked it but years later still can’t seem to define it.
I don't know why that sect cannot do some basic research into what 'woke' came from. But then again, that sect is also into book banning which makes sense. They just don't want the public to be able to be aware of differing viewpoints.
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Old 05-05-2023, 07:50 AM
 
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Thing is that Texas won't be blue soon. But who knows what the future will hold.

In the 2020 election, Texas was more blue than Ohio. I don't think anyone would have seen that coming 10 years ago. Its a tug of war right now, the major cities are going more blue, the Valley is becoming more red, and the rest of the state hasn't changed much.

But I don't even want a blue Texas. I want a purple one. Right now, the leaders of this state run it like its 90/10 GOP to Democrat when in reality its 55/45. If they ran it like a right of center state, Id be good.
Agree with purple, that's when the US has been most prosperous. But currently, the division is serious, and top 2 candidates for that sect is Trump and DeSantis. That's who they love and want according to their own pollsters.

But Purple won't happen within Texas as it in the top 10 of most gerrymandered states, and then voter suppression, and now being able to basically overturn elections in counties with more than 2.6 million residents - which Harris is the only one, and a governor who bows to and follows Tucker, the white nationalist. Add to that a bought and paid for Supreme Court, there is going to be more red on the state level, and US House in the near future.

As the US Senate is statewide, there is a possibility that D's may be elected, but it'll be tough with the love affair Texans have with Cruz. And if Texas goes D in the US Senate (election of Allred for example), it really only helps on a national level, and barely on a Texas state level.

The only way is that rural areas of TX educate themselves and make informed votes instead of party line votes. But history shows, and even the rural area posters on this board continually show, they love their Cancun Cruz.
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Old 05-05-2023, 08:45 AM
 
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https://www.politico.com/2022-electi...ewide-offices/

Dallas County went 62.8%-36.0% for Beto. That's pretty blue.

Harris County went to Beto by 9.5 points.

Texas can absolutely turn blue, or at least purple. There's a reason Abbott and the Texas Senate are trying to make it so the Secretary of State can rerun elections in Harris County.

https://www.democracydocket.com/news...nty-elections/

And why the Texas Senate just passed a bunch of anti-voting bills.

https://www.democracydocket.com/news...-voting-bills/
If the Democrats win Texas the republican party would be on life support nationally. Florida and NC would most certainly fall too and Georgia and Arizona would remain in the Democratic tally. That is the 5 biggest republican states. Georgia or Arizona alone puts a Democrat back in the white house. Losing Texas would just crush the party. There is no way they are going to let that happen. That's why they are expending so much effort to make sure doesn't.

The Democrats have a Latino problem. It has put Florida further away than it used to be and made Colorado, NM and Nevada trend closer to the center. Allred seems to be fired up and have some excitement behind him, but I think one of the Castro Brothers would be better at bringing out the South Texas vote.
They can also help win back the house seats they lost in S Texas.

Another thing is funding. Do the Democrats put all their effort into keeping the Montana and Ohio, WV and Michigan seats blue or try to flip Texas and Florida.

I think they have a good chance at keeping Michigan, but I have a feeling Ohio might already be lost. Montana and WV are just enigmas so I am even going to go there, but if the democrats think that Ohio and at least one of the other two are in danger, they will need to make a big play for either Texas or Florida but my money would be on Florida.

But it is still really early, the national atmosphere plays a huge factor and so might 3rd party candidates.
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