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06-26-2009, 10:02 PM
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Fall is here!!
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Originally Posted by TexasReb
Here is a pretty good quote I came across on a website speaking of differences in varities of Southern American English (of which "Texas tawk" is definitely part). Kinda sums it up in way which oughta satisfy everyone. LOL
Southerners sound mostly alike to non-Southern ears, but a native has no trouble distinguishing a mountain accent from one hailing from the Tidewater area of Virginia. The Southern accent is deceptively complex, borrowing as it does from the British accent, Scottish “burr” and Irish “brogue,” the Cherokee language, and mixed with slurred French intonations and staccato Spanish and spiced with African-American speech.
I like that. And it is very true.
And of course you know I feel much different, my dear friend Cathy! BUT...at LEAST it seems that this thread hasn't taken that old and absolutely deepest depth dives into regional affiliation per se! I'd like to bury THAT one under the mequite, pecan and pine trees of Texas. LOL
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Me, too, TR, LOL!!
Interesting definition of the "Southern accent", of which there are many variations!
I'm not complaining overmuch at 95 degrees here yesterday, when my hometown was 104 at the same time....and sis's place was 107. It was 92 here, and over 100 at home.
UGH!!!! I can't wait to get away from hot summers altogether, and by golly, I'm going to find it, too!!
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06-26-2009, 10:07 PM
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Fall is here!!
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I'll be dammed! LOL
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Uh huh......LOL!!!! 
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06-27-2009, 01:17 AM
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If you don't like dogs, be on your way.
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Originally Posted by theloneranger
Where in Texas are you that people speak "Southern talk?" The only large towns I can think of where they sound particularly Southern are Tyler and Longview/Marshall.
Even the natives in Dallas and Houston are much less pronounced than the Deep South, and have some "twang" of Eastern Tennessee and Western North Carolina where so many of our forefathers came from. It ain't much compared to most Southern areas.
I, for one, am always shocked when people tell me I sound particularly "country" or "Texan" or "Southern." I know people who sound "Southern" and they put my accent to shame.
I do wish we sounded more like southern Georgia did, but we can't have everything, I guess.
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I'm in a rural area south of Fort Worth and north of Waco.
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06-27-2009, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jluke65780
If you live in the Panhandle, you can drive to Colorado and go skiing. However, Skiing isn't a big popular thing for us Texans anyway, so we'll live.
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Amarillo is nearly 450 miles from Breckenridge and the ski resorts outside Denver. That's not equivalent to LA, Seattle, Phoenix etc. in which the slopes are nearby. This is what I mean when I say Texans have pride. Instead of simply admitting the obvious, you have to provide a weak retort like "If you live in the panhandle....", what percentage of the population in Texas even lives in the Panhandle.
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06-27-2009, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasReb
Californians seem to keep moving here though, don't they? How many Texans are moving to California anymore?
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They weren't exactly moving to Texas when the economy was strong were they? In others words, they are not moving to Texas out of choice
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06-27-2009, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by WillysB
Apologies up front for any offense to the poster of this BS but if you think the slogan of 'Don't mess with Texas' in its origination and appreciation had anything to do bragging then it's a glaring admission of unqualified ignorance. That others may have taken it to some other context was/is not the intent of the anti-littering campaign. That it's a catchy phrase is indicative of its genius. To wit, this current dialogue.
Perhaps this discussion should be moved to the Anti-Texas Panty Waist Participants forum.
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We asserted that Texans take a greater sense of pride in their state than residents of many other states. A Texan disputed that. I responded by showing how many Texas drivers have the "Don't mess with Texas" bumper sticker on their car. I'm asserting they place that sticker on their car out of a sense of state pride. I never denied the original concept behind the sticker. I simply stated the sticker was created over 20 years ago and has since evolved to mean something else. There are web sites that sell the sticker and cite the very reasons I provided. There is a website devoted to this slogan that sells t-shirts and coffee mugs. Are we to assume a person who wears a t-shirt with that slogan is doing so because he is concerned about trash on the freeways or pride in Texas. I will let you figure that one out. It doesn't matter what the original message was if people are using it to mean something else now. The swastika is a sanskrit symbol that is used to signify good luck in Hinduism. The Nazi's later adopted it as their insignia. Today, the swastika is most associated with the Nazis. However, by your assinine logic, a swastika is not a racist symbol because that wasn't how it was originally concocted even though it was redefined and is now recognized to mean something entirely different in the United States and most western countries. Just because something was designed to mean something, it can be redefined to mean something else as what has ocurred with this slogan. The fact that I had to type a paragraph explaining something that would be intuitive to most people is just an example of Social Darwinsim at work.
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06-27-2009, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by azriverfan.
Amarillo is nearly 450 miles from Breckenridge and the ski resorts outside Denver. That's not equivalent to LA, Seattle, Phoenix etc. in which the slopes are nearby. This is what I mean when I say Texans have pride. Instead of simply admitting the obvious, you have to provide a weak retort like "If you live in the panhandle....", what percentage of the population in Texas even lives in the Panhandle.
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You make 450 miles seem like alot! 
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06-27-2009, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by azriverfan.
They weren't exactly moving to Texas when the economy was strong were they? In others words, they are not moving to Texas out of choice
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Actually, they were. They've been moving to Texas in significant numbers since when I was playing the "how many different state license plates can you see" game with my son when he was about 7 and we noticed the large number of California (and, at that time, New York) license plates that were out there versus every other plate but Texas. That son is now 37, and it hasn't slacked off any in the intervening 30 years.
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06-27-2009, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by azriverfan.
We asserted that Texans take a greater sense of pride in their state than residents of many other states. A Texan disputed that. I responded by showing how many Texas drivers have the "Don't mess with Texas" bumper sticker on their car. I'm asserting they place that sticker on their car out of a sense of state pride. I never denied the original concept behind the sticker. I simply stated the sticker was created over 20 years ago and has since evolved to mean something else. There are web sites that sell the sticker and cite the very reasons I provided. There is a website devoted to this slogan that sells t-shirts and coffee mugs. Are we to assume a person who wears a t-shirt with that slogan is doing so because he is concerned about trash on the freeways or pride in Texas. I will let you figure that one out. It doesn't matter what the original message was if people are using it to mean something else now. The swastika is a sanskrit symbol that is used to signify good luck in Hinduism. The Nazi's later adopted it as their insignia. Today, the swastika is most associated with the Nazis. However, by your assinine logic, a swastika is not a racist symbol because that wasn't how it was originally concocted even though it was redefined and is now recognized to mean something entirely different in the United States and most western countries. Just because something was designed to mean something, it can be redefined to mean something else as what has ocurred with this slogan. The fact that I had to type a paragraph explaining something that would be intuitive to most people is just an example of Social Darwinsim at work.
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Or, it's just an example of you being wrong. Or people disagreeing with you.
You really have issues with Texas, don't you? Good thing you don't live here (though make sweeping generalizations about what we think and seem to think you know all about our state), isn't it? Win-win for everybody!
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06-27-2009, 08:00 AM
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Fall is here!!
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Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady
Or, it's just an example of you being wrong. Or people disagreeing with you.
You really have issues with Texas, don't you? Good thing you don't live here (though make sweeping generalizations about what we think and seem to think you know all about our state), isn't it? Win-win for everybody!
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He's getting to be a real bore, isn't he, LOL!?
It's beyond me why outsiders give a rat's patootie what Texans think of their own state. There certainly are enough people who have nothing better to do than come to the Texas forums and bash everything and everybody.
So....bash on!
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