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Old 10-17-2011, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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What does the Astrodome take away from Reliant????

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some people are just too ridiculous
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Old 10-17-2011, 05:34 PM
JJG
 
Location: Fort Worth
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lol, could not believe that question either.

If someone goes downtown for a visit, Market Square should be the first stop.
Nah, I was just a little confused. I didn't know if anne was asking where the Historic District was or where were the people...

That side of downtown has been my first stop ever since I could drive on my own.

(BTW, what's up with the TCU and UNT billboards around I-10/45 ?)
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Old 10-17-2011, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Ok... so...

DOWNTOWN DALLAS:

Pros:
Other than the skyline, I do have to say Downtown Dallas was more vibrant than I thought at night... although at the time there was the State Fair Classic and Arkansas was playing A&M.... AND there was a party at the Convention Center, so that may have added to the vibrancy that the area usually gets.
I saw a freestyle artist in West End just workin' on some pieces with techno in the back ground, and he used fire on his paints. Little hard to discribe, but it was awesome. If I wasn't broke from the Fair, I would have got one em. What that shows me is just some sense of culture and wanting to do something different. You can't have enough of that.
I also like the new Omni Convention Center hotel. It's well needed and long overdue.
Of course, access to DART Rail is just picture perfect. It's one of the few models of Dallas I wish Fort Worth would follow. It's been almost a full year and I'm STILL pissed about that .
I don't need to mention the great mixture of architecture that would be the envy of many major cities in this country.
And walking around downtown at night didn't give me that feeling of 'I'm gonna die' panic. You can also tell that Dallas is at least trying to get better in the core, unlike a certain city-burb that has no real downtown and STILL is the largest city in America no real transportation...

Cons:
The homelessness is atrocious. I really feel for those people, knowing that for some it's hard. Some just had horrible luck and ended up in a place where they never wanted to be. But seriously, there has to be some sort of help for these people.
The people are.... different. Seriously, it seems the further east you go (even in the Metroplex), people change. A lot of the dudes I passed were shady as hell. And no this wasn't just because I was there at night, it happened when I went there in the daytime as well. 3 random dudes just asked if they could use my phone. Well, not really ASK, just say something like, 'hey, let me use yo phone'. Just don't trust that. And even when I went to Dealy Plaza that night, someone just approached me and all of a sudden started talkin' about the site, the conspiracy, then PV, TSU, U of H and all.... then after all that, he basically begged for 'donation' and (remember, I'm broke) when I tell him I can't help him out, he cops an attitude.
And speaking of Dealy Plaza, I swear you just get a chill down your spine standing there and reflecting. That's not really a pro or con, just a basic fact.
There's a liquor store with barbed wire fencing right next to the Channel 4 studio.... enough said.
And as we all know, Downtown Dallas is about 20% pedestrian friendly. But again, they're trying.


DOWNTOWN HOUSTON:

Pros:
Houston is much better at street level. Not perfect by any means, no, but you can tell H-town has tried a hell of a lot more than Dallas in the past decade.
The Historic District (like the West End in Dallas or Sundance Square in FW) is lovely. Kind of reminds me of New Orleans.... if it had 900 footers in the background. It has Market Square, which is a park with a dog area, fountains, artwork, a lil' Greek shop with a stage for live music, and plenty of greenery.
Arts District is top notch with Bayou Place and Verison Center
Also, all the parks... Sesquincentenial, Tranquility, Hermann Square, Sam Houston, Antioch, Championship, Allen's Landing... and of couse Discovery Green.
I mostly like Discovery Green as it's like a mini, mini..... MINI Central Park. It's a great place for a date, to take your dog, your kids. It's got its big time fountains you can run in, a little place that resembles the natural wetlands you in East Texas, amphitheater, scultptures, this GREAT place to eat right in the middle...... took a girl there once.... Good times.
Minute Maid Park, Convention Center, and Toyota Center all lined up perfectly.
Rail line straight down Main Street.
And you just gotta love the linear skyline set up.

Cons:
Like Dallas, it can seem a bit intimidating walking through there.
Same homeless problem as Dallas... and other big cities, for that matter.
Main Street, although it has a rail line going through it, isn't exactly that attractive.
Some beautiful old buildings that are abandoned and/or going to be demolished. There's this HUGE hole close to where the Chase Tower is. Not exactly pretty. Dallas also has this problem.
WAAAAAY TO MANY SURFACE LOTS. Talk about heat island...
This is the same place that had Enron's Headquarters.... enough said.
I agree with a lot of this. However, when I've been in downtown Houston it felt a lot more office building oriented and less, condo/apt, mixed-use developed as what you find in downtown Dallas. I don't recall any areas of downtown Houston like the Main Street district of downtown Dallas. Perhaps, I just missed that area though.
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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Nah, I was just a little confused. I didn't know if anne was asking where the Historic District was or where were the people...

That side of downtown has been my first stop ever since I could drive on my own.

(BTW, what's up with the TCU and UNT billboards around I-10/45 ?)
I'm asking where it is. You said it reminded you of New Orleans, I don't remember any part of downtown that reminds me of New Orleans.
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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(BTW, what's up with the TCU and UNT billboards around I-10/45 ?)
just helping out I guess I dunno.
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I'm asking where it is. You said it reminded you of New Orleans, I don't remember any part of downtown that reminds me of New Orleans.
Market Square is right next to the Theater District between Travis and Milam and Preston and Congress. It is near Allen's Landing and is one of the oldest parts of Houston.

I don't know about reminding me of NOLA but it is a fun little spot. Nice little park, nice old haunted pubs, good entertainment on weekends, nice place to walk dogs and a good spot to pick up snacks. Franks Pizza, Niko Nikos and La Carafe are among my favorite spots in the area. Treebeards, Les Givrals, Cotton Exchange, 57 West Jazz Cafe, Macondo and Cabo are also close popular spots

http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicc/cfiles21656.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/groovehouse/5706027858/ (broken link)

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Old 10-17-2011, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Southeast TX
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Nah, I was just a little confused. I didn't know if anne was asking where the Historic District was or where were the people...

That side of downtown has been my first stop ever since I could drive on my own.

(BTW, what's up with the TCU and UNT billboards around I-10/45 ?)
Man I was going back to the school from Memorial today and I noticed the same thing on I10 and N45. They are all over 610 too. I seen some U of H ones as well.
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:40 PM
 
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just helping out I guess I dunno.


Market Square is right next to the Theater District between Travis and Milam and Preston and Congress. It is near Allen's Landing and is one of the oldest parts of Houston.

I don't know about reminding me of NOLA but it is a fun little spot. Nice little park, nice old haunted pubs, good entertainment on weekends, nice place to walk dogs and a good spot to pick up snacks. Franks Pizza, Niko Nikos and La Carafe are among my favorite spots in the area. Treebeards, Les Givrals, Cotton Exchange, 57 West Jazz Cafe, Macondo and Cabo are also close popular spots

http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicc/cfiles21656.jpg

Market Square, Houston, TX | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/groovehouse/5706027858/ - broken link)

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Both Dallas and Houstons have downtowns that leave something to be desired, but this seems like a neat little area. Not sure why I haven't checked it out when im in Houston
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Funky Town, Texas
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Nah, I was just a little confused. I didn't know if anne was asking where the Historic District was or where were the people...

That side of downtown has been my first stop ever since I could drive on my own.

(BTW, what's up with the TCU and UNT billboards around I-10/45 ?)
Maybe this will help you out....TCU billboards all over Houston....But from what I understand a significant number of TCU alumni are in Houston. TCU is doing a good job of promoting itself across the country. They (TCU) have big donors in Chicago and Southern California of all places according to the SMU blog.

TCU crap all over Houston

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Old 10-17-2011, 08:55 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Downtown Houston is incredibly underwhelming for a city its size. Market Square is so blaaaaah. Do you have any idea how many cities far smaller than Houston have more impressive historic districts? That's sad.
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Old 10-17-2011, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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just helping out I guess I dunno.


Market Square is right next to the Theater District between Travis and Milam and Preston and Congress. It is near Allen's Landing and is one of the oldest parts of Houston.

I don't know about reminding me of NOLA but it is a fun little spot. Nice little park, nice old haunted pubs, good entertainment on weekends, nice place to walk dogs and a good spot to pick up snacks. Franks Pizza, Niko Nikos and La Carafe are among my favorite spots in the area. Treebeards, Les Givrals, Cotton Exchange, 57 West Jazz Cafe, Macondo and Cabo are also close popular spots

http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicc/cfiles21656.jpg

Market Square, Houston, TX | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/groovehouse/5706027858/ - broken link)

http://img.groundspeak.com/waymarkin...49386d789f.jpg

http://img.groundspeak.com/waymarkin...114e1d2ef7.jpg

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The third is Main St right, been there countless times. That is near Minute Maid Park if I'm not mistaken, the area around the park is pretty old. I will have to check this area out next time I'm downtown. Thanks.
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