Houston vs. Dallas (Fort Worth, Plano, Richardson: stable, research, city hall)
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If we could read what? All you ever provided was that graph with no actual data points behind it. It is impossible to read because it doesn't actually tell us anything, like if it was by city or metro.
But since you seem incapable of actually doing the due diligence on things you posted yourself, here it is:
All the links I've found (such as this one) says it's by city, not metro. So yea, before you freak out over what other people can or can't read, maybe you should do some reading yourself.
Oh, and here's another one (where your version of the infographic came from), and it again states that is, in fact, citites.
The report does mention that the NYC Metro has 13% of the nation's super rich, but that is the only mention of metro areas in the news blurb. Every other data point is for cities.
I fully expect you to apologize to casimpso for your rudeness, thanks.
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The study ranks the top ten metro areas in the United States by population of ultra high net worth (UHNW) individuals, or anyone worth at least US $30 million when accounting for shares in public and private companies, residential and investment properties, art collections, planes, cash and other investible assets.
he knows darn well that areas like SF would hardly show up on these lists without including the rest of the BAY. Anytime SF is that close to LA you know they are comparing the Bay.
A lot of wealth is contributed by the SJ side.
Also, although it does not add as much, they use Baltimore with DC too.
I dunno why he is looking for an apology, someone used the lame Houston was a bigger city comment and I told them these are not by city but by metro, and they come along with the same lame argument, and want an apology like they didn't see it the first time
all the numbers are for metro. People use the term city but for all of them they are metro. No rudeness here and no apology is coming either. I mentioned they were metro in a post earlier, so it seems we have more than one poster who practices selective reading.
In Fact for SF and DC they include the whole darn CSA.
even the links you posted said city area, but you should know by now that metro areas are synonymous with city nowadays. It is done on here everyday.
Brookville, New York $250,001
Chevy Chase Village, Maryland $250,001
Hidden Hills, California $250,001 Hunters Creek Village, Texas $250,001
Muttontown, New York $250,001
Oyster Bay Cove, New York $250,001
Kenilworth, Illinois $247,000
Mission Hills, Kansas $243,553
Plandome, New York $241,667
Munsey Park, New York $237,321
Belle Meade, Tennessee $232,500
The Village of Indian Hill, Ohio $231,161
Bannockburn, Illinois $226,875
Cherry Hills, Colorado $226,552
Lloyd Harbor, New York $221,667
Los Altos Hills, California $218,922 Barton Creek, Texas $214,625
Woodside, California $214,310
Castle Pines, Colorado $213,929
Lake Success, New York $209,583
Scarsdale, New York $208,750
Chappaqua, New York $207,747
River Hills, Wisconsin $207,031
Rolling Hills, California $205,417
Old Westbury, New York $205,278 Piney Point Village, Texas $205,221
South Barrington, Illinois $205,035
Somerset, Maryland $204,792
Sands Point, New York $204,286
Hillsborough, California $202,292
Winnetka, Illinois $201,650 Bunker Hill Village, Texas $201,250
Glencoe, Illinois $201,050
Chevy Chase, Maryland $200,966
Travilah, Maryland $199,414
East Hills, New York $198,750
Great Falls, Virginia $197,446
Rancho Santa Fe, California $197,446
Roslyn Harbo, New York $194,464
Plandome Heights, New York $192,188
Upper Brookville, New York $192,188
Clyde Hill, Washington $192,000
Hewlett Harbor, New York $190,000
Flower Hill, New York $188,482
Bedford, New York $187,634
Clarkson Valley, Missouri $186,875
Atherton, California $185,000
Fox Chapel, Pennsylvania $184,423
Dellwood, Minnesota $183,750
Mountain Lake, New Jersey $181,938 Southlake, Texas $181,930
Golden's Bridge, New York $181,339
Darien, Connecticut $181,019 Shavano Park, Texas $180,795 West University Place, Texas $180,551
Head of the Harbor, New York $179,792
Black Diamond, Florida $179,500 Highland Park, Texas $176,375
Laurel Hollow, New York $176,250
Roslyn Estates, New York $176,250
Wolf Trap, Virginia $173,411
Darnestown, Maryland $172,452
Essex Fells, New Jersey $172,159
Bronxville, New York $171,319
Kiawah Island, South Carolina $170,521
Palos Verdes Estates, California $170,068
Millburn, New Jersey $169,678
Medina, Washington $169,196
Yarrow Point, Washington $169,167
Blackhawk-Camino, California $169,052
Portola Valley, California $168,750
Loyola, California $168,125
Alpine, New Jersey $167,917
Monte Sereno, California $167,417
Piedmont, California $167,014
Barrington Hills, Illinois $165,901
Larchmont, New York $165,375
Hawthorn Woods, Illinois $165,139
Briarcliff Manor, New York $164,000 Rollingwood, Texas $163,167
Alamo, California $163,117
Upper Saddle River, New Jersey $162,679
Kensington, New York $162,604
North Caldwell, New Jersey $162,422
Nissequogue, New York $162,188
Orinda, California $160,867
Orchard Lake Village, Michigan $160,714
Kildeer, Illinois $160,643
San Marino, California $160,481
Long Grove, Illinois $160,169
Brookmont, Maryland $159,856
Lattingtown, New York $147,750
Montara, California $158,675
Coto de Caza, California $158,670
Glen Ridge, New Jersey $158,173 West Lake Hills, Texas $157,910
Potomac, Maryland $157,738
Rolling Hills Estates, California $157,730
Ho-Ho-Kus, New Jersey $157,656
Del Rio, California $157,500
Lake Bluff, Illinois $157,469
McLean, Virginia $156,943
Great Neck Estates, New York $156,563
Huntington Bay, New York $156,250
North Key Largo, Florida $156,250
Franklin Lakes, New Jersey $154,018
Diablo, California $153,750
Brookville, New York $250,001
Chevy Chase Village, Maryland $250,001
Hidden Hills, California $250,001 Hunters Creek Village, Texas $250,001
Muttontown, New York $250,001
Oyster Bay Cove, New York $250,001
Kenilworth, Illinois $247,000
Mission Hills, Kansas $243,553
Plandome, New York $241,667
Munsey Park, New York $237,321
Belle Meade, Tennessee $232,500
The Village of Indian Hill, Ohio $231,161
Bannockburn, Illinois $226,875
Cherry Hills, Colorado $226,552
Lloyd Harbor, New York $221,667
Los Altos Hills, California $218,922 Barton Creek, Texas $214,625
Woodside, California $214,310
Castle Pines, Colorado $213,929
Lake Success, New York $209,583
Scarsdale, New York $208,750
Chappaqua, New York $207,747
River Hills, Wisconsin $207,031
Rolling Hills, California $205,417
Old Westbury, New York $205,278 Piney Point Village, Texas $205,221
South Barrington, Illinois $205,035
Somerset, Maryland $204,792
Sands Point, New York $204,286
Hillsborough, California $202,292
Winnetka, Illinois $201,650 Bunker Hill Village, Texas $201,250
Glencoe, Illinois $201,050
Chevy Chase, Maryland $200,966
Travilah, Maryland $199,414
East Hills, New York $198,750
Great Falls, Virginia $197,446
Rancho Santa Fe, California $197,446
Roslyn Harbo, New York $194,464
Plandome Heights, New York $192,188
Upper Brookville, New York $192,188
Clyde Hill, Washington $192,000
Hewlett Harbor, New York $190,000
Flower Hill, New York $188,482
Bedford, New York $187,634
Clarkson Valley, Missouri $186,875
Atherton, California $185,000
Fox Chapel, Pennsylvania $184,423
Dellwood, Minnesota $183,750
Mountain Lake, New Jersey $181,938 Southlake, Texas $181,930
Golden's Bridge, New York $181,339
Darien, Connecticut $181,019 Shavano Park, Texas $180,795 West University Place, Texas $180,551
Head of the Harbor, New York $179,792
Black Diamond, Florida $179,500 Highland Park, Texas $176,375
Laurel Hollow, New York $176,250
Roslyn Estates, New York $176,250
Wolf Trap, Virginia $173,411
Darnestown, Maryland $172,452
Essex Fells, New Jersey $172,159
Bronxville, New York $171,319
Kiawah Island, South Carolina $170,521
Palos Verdes Estates, California $170,068
Millburn, New Jersey $169,678
Medina, Washington $169,196
Yarrow Point, Washington $169,167
Blackhawk-Camino, California $169,052
Portola Valley, California $168,750
Loyola, California $168,125
Alpine, New Jersey $167,917
Monte Sereno, California $167,417
Piedmont, California $167,014
Barrington Hills, Illinois $165,901
Larchmont, New York $165,375
Hawthorn Woods, Illinois $165,139
Briarcliff Manor, New York $164,000 Rollingwood, Texas $163,167
Alamo, California $163,117
Upper Saddle River, New Jersey $162,679
Kensington, New York $162,604
North Caldwell, New Jersey $162,422
Nissequogue, New York $162,188
Orinda, California $160,867
Orchard Lake Village, Michigan $160,714
Kildeer, Illinois $160,643
San Marino, California $160,481
Long Grove, Illinois $160,169
Brookmont, Maryland $159,856
Lattingtown, New York $147,750
Montara, California $158,675
Coto de Caza, California $158,670
Glen Ridge, New Jersey $158,173 West Lake Hills, Texas $157,910
Potomac, Maryland $157,738
Rolling Hills Estates, California $157,730
Ho-Ho-Kus, New Jersey $157,656
Del Rio, California $157,500
Lake Bluff, Illinois $157,469
McLean, Virginia $156,943
Great Neck Estates, New York $156,563
Huntington Bay, New York $156,250
North Key Largo, Florida $156,250
Franklin Lakes, New Jersey $154,018
Diablo, California $153,750
Houston in Blue
Fort Worth/Dallas in Red
Although Houston certainly has very wealthy neighborhoods, this data is misleading for Dallas. First off, the Dallas neighborhoods included on this list have more people than all these tiny Houston enclaves combined (around 34,000 as opposed to around 25,000) and it is harder to maintain wealth for larger areas.
Secondly, Dallas doesn't incorporate its elite areas like Houston does. Thousands of people live in Preston Hollow, a very wealthy area of Dallas, which isn't incorporated. Same goes for areas like Bluffview, Preston Hollow Estates, West Plano/Willow Bend, East Dallas estates in Lakewood, Westover hills in fort worth, etc so they are not included on this list.
I am not diminishing Houston's elite enclaves, they are quite wealthy, but this list makes it look like Dallas doesn't even compete in wealthy neighborhoods which simply is not true.
I agree, I have met many low key multimillionaires here. Some of them dress so modestly and are so modest in manner, you would think they were as broke as me.
What's the point of being a millionaire if you don't know how to flaunt it? Either give it away to the poor or spend it away while looking like a star.
"Do not store up for yourselves earthly treasures".
Although Houston certainly has very wealthy neighborhoods, this data is misleading for Dallas. First off, the Dallas neighborhoods included on this list have more people than all these tiny Houston enclaves combined (around 34,000 as opposed to around 25,000) and it is harder to maintain wealth for larger areas.
Secondly, Dallas doesn't incorporate its elite areas like Houston does. Thousands of people live in Preston Hollow, a very wealthy area of Dallas, which isn't incorporated. Same goes for areas like Bluffview, Preston Hollow Estates, West Plano/Willow Bend, East Dallas estates in Lakewood, Westover hills in fort worth, etc so they are not included on this list.
I am not diminishing Houston's elite enclaves, they are quite wealthy, but this list makes it look like Dallas doesn't even compete in wealthy neighborhoods which simply is not true.
Since when is Preston Hollow not incorporated?
I do know that the Park Cities are not officially part of the city of Dallas but are home to extreme wealth.
Although Houston certainly has very wealthy neighborhoods, this data is misleading for Dallas. First off, the Dallas neighborhoods included on this list have more people than all these tiny Houston enclaves combined (around 34,000 as opposed to around 25,000) and it is harder to maintain wealth for larger areas.
Secondly, Dallas doesn't incorporate its elite areas like Houston does. Thousands of people live in Preston Hollow, a very wealthy area of Dallas, which isn't incorporated. Same goes for areas like Bluffview, Preston Hollow Estates, West Plano/Willow Bend, East Dallas estates in Lakewood, Westover hills in fort worth, etc so they are not included on this list.
I am not diminishing Houston's elite enclaves, they are quite wealthy, but this list makes it look like Dallas doesn't even compete in wealthy neighborhoods which simply is not true.
lol, you are making it sound like all the rich people are in these enclaves. you are forgetting the tens of thousands who live in unincorporated areas of Houston like Cinco ranch and the woodlands or in river oaks within the city.
The data is not deceiving at all. What applies to Dallas applies to Houston and the Fact of the matter is Houston has more rich areas than Dallas. That is why we have more rich people.
City.............. Median Income
Houston ........$42,797
Dallas............$41,266
Missouri City...$82,569
League City....$83,662
Atascocita......$83,662
The Woodlands $95,537
and you can't say our enclaves all add up to 25K. From the areas in Texas with median income above 90K and approaching 100,000 people there are only 4, 3 of which are in Houston. Pearland, the Woodlands and league city are at about 100,000 people each. The only one Dallas has is Frisco
Last edited by HtownLove; 10-19-2011 at 08:46 PM..
What's the point of being a millionaire if you don't know how to flaunt it? Either give it away to the poor or spend it away while looking like a star.
"Do not store up for yourselves earthly treasures".
They live comfortable lives, in luxurious but non gaudy houses and take extended trips to wonderful places.
You can be rich, live well, without flaunting it.
No need for really gaudy homes, excessive cars and ridiculous clothing.
lol, you are making it sound like all the rich people are in these enclaves. you are forgetting the tens of thousands who live in unincorporated areas of Houston like Cinco ranch and the woodlands or in river oaks within the city.
The data is not deceiving at all. What applies to Dallas applies to Houston and the Fact of the matter is Houston has more rich areas than Dallas. That is why we have more rich people.
City.............. Median Income
Houston ........$42,797
Dallas............$41,266
Missouri City...$82,569
League City....$83,662
Atascocita......$83,662
The Woodlands $95,537
Of course I'm not implying that. However, the ULTRA rich neighborhoods that would be included on this list from Dallas are not present because they aren't incorporated.
And I dont know where your source is but I generally see the average income of Houston around $37,000. Either way they are nearly identical so it doesn't matter
Frisco's is $100,868
Plano is $84,492 and it is a much larger city. It was the wealthiest city above 250,000 in the United States in 2007, whereas Pearland only has 90,000 people
Also I can pick out some random Dallas suburbs as well...
Colleyville- $148,789
Southlake- $172,945
Trophy Club- $92,492
Highland Village- $102,141
Allen- $93,392
Parker- $101,786
Westlake- $128,375
Richardson- $90,790
plus many, many more
Also, all 3 of the wealthiest counties in the state are in DFW
So your argument can go both ways. Dallas also has very wealthy suburbs as well as neighborhoods. I dont think its fair to claim that yall have "more rich people" however, because that doesn't seem true. Neither metro is too far apart but I still believe DFW has more money generally.
Last edited by nakold23; 10-19-2011 at 09:10 PM..
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