04-09-2012, 09:42 AM
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lol, that is the funniest thing ever.
Is that why Houston gets more visitors, both foreign and domestic than Dallas???
Most of the visitors are international/foreign. isn't that what you all love to claim? You cultural diversity and international flair?
04-09-2012, 09:43 AM
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Let's say you live in OKC, St. Louis, Memphis, or Nashville (just throwing some places out there) and you want to take a road trip to Texas. Are you going to stop in Dallas after you've been on the road for 6 or more hours or give on driving four more down to Houston when there is just as much to do in Dallas?
Also, yes, Dallas is definitely more centrally located driving and flying.
There is no reason to go to Dallas from those places
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ShaunJuan
Most of the visitors are international/foreign. isn't that what you all love to claim? You cultural diversity and international flair?
Like I said, Houston has more Foreign AND domestic visitors.
Houston is in the top ten list for both. Dallas is in neither
04-09-2012, 09:53 AM
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There is no reason to go to Dallas from those places
Like I said, Houston has more Foreign AND domestic visitors.
Houston is in the top ten list for both. Dallas is in neither
...domestic travel from foreign born citizens due to its international feel is what I said. But either way, you're not going to drag me down in arguments about why Houston is so great and wonderful (especially when I've already said over and over it's a great and wonderful city that I love). See, "HtownLove," you're the perfect example of a Houston homer who is so hard pressed to prove why Houston is so great and better than everywhere else that you're even willingly to argue with a poster who openly acknowledges how great of a city it is. Have a good day...
04-09-2012, 10:01 AM
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ShaunJuan
Let's say you live in OKC, St. Louis, Memphis, or Nashville (just throwing some places out there) and you want to take a road trip to Texas. Are you going to stop in Dallas after you've been on the road for 6 or more hours or give on driving four more down to Houston when there is just as much to do in Dallas?
Also, yes, Dallas is definitely more centrally located driving and flying.
We all can randomly throw places out there when it comes to driving to fit either scenario. If I'm from Florida and want to visit Texas, I'm likely gonna stop in Houston.
04-09-2012, 10:08 AM
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I notice it in real life every time I visit both cities and the subject of the other city comes up. Trust me, it's not just on these boards.
Also, while I am familiar with both cities, I am still an outsider because I haven't moved yet, so what I'm giving you is an objective view from someone who really has no stake in either city yet. Trust me, with all the Houston/Dallas bashing that goes on on these boards from people who live in Texas/Houston or Dallas, you all NEED to hear objective opinions from others who don't live in either city about the things that they notice as an outsider and a non-Texan. Especially many of you Houstonians, who are about 80/20 against the Dallasites when it comes to the trash talking and insecurity. If I didn't know Houston for myself, some of the awful attitudes and the trash you Houstonians display and hurl on these boards would REALLY turn me off from Houston as a city.
I'm from the Austin area, not a Houstonian, so basically an outsider looking in too. I think you're exaggerating and I stand by my opinions on the topic. Yes you are participating in it, by making these claims and bringing up the good ol' insecurity/inferiority card. And here I notice several Dallas people going on to the Houston board to comment in threads, but not so much the other way around. Just my observation.
There are idiots everywhere, and it usually has little or nothing to do with what city they're from.
04-09-2012, 10:25 AM
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Looks like our colleges have new looks....
04-09-2012, 10:32 AM
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And here I notice several Dallas people going on to the Houston board to comment in threads, but not so much the other way around. Just my observation.
It's definitely a two-way street, and it's usually the same few posters that are guilty of it. Some people just need better hobbies.
04-09-2012, 10:37 AM
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And here I notice several Dallas people going on to the Houston board to comment in threads, but not so much the other way around. Just my observation.
There are idiots everywhere, and it usually has little or nothing to do with what city they're from.
I agree.
Example, someone was considering Houston and Dallas for relocation last week. They posted in both cities threads.
The Houston posters gave objective points, and stayed in the houston room, the Dallas posters in the Dallas thread just posted how they hate Houston and further went into the Houston thread and derailed it with their complexes talking about how the Cowboys rule.
sheesh, they have to overcompensate so much that they go into Houston's forum and start crap
04-09-2012, 10:51 AM
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Oh,
please spare me the whining, folks.
3/4 of every "negative" thing I've said about Dallas in this thread is only to counter the ridiculous and baseless things that have been said about Houston (which I'm sure none of you will remember, right?). The other 1/4 is just me stating my completely fair opinion about the scope of things, and the Dallasites simply not being able to accept it. Like every other childish homer on City Data, if you say you don't like something in their city, you'll be called a hater. "Hater" is a term that I have yet to hear being used by a Houstonian, unless it's being said facetiously. I'm a grown man, and that word isn't in my vocabulary.
There's only one poster I can think of that will consistently say unwarranted negative things about Dallas (which I have called him out on before), and he isn't even from Houston. He's from East Texas. There is a native Dallasite, though, who will show his face every once in a while to say something foolish about Houston.
What it comes down to, I think, is that the Houstonians here seem to be more familiar with DFW than vice versa. Not to point him out, but JJG is a good example of this, as he's lived in both regions, and it shows, as his posts are possibly the least biased of anyone here.
It's okay to talk down on Houston's humidity, lack of zoning, short rail line, boring skyscrapers, and refineries, but if we turn around and say something about Dallas' sterility, materialism, and lack of culture and character, we're just being mean bullies...Give me a break. All this is about is people dishing it out, but not being able to take it.
If the Houstonians have an inferiority complex, then the Dallasites have a superiority complex. That is some perceived notion that Dallas is truly the better and more exalted city, which I have seen no evidence of. In case you haven't noticed, much of the nation doesn't have a fond opinion of the entire state of Texas, so don't fool yourselves into thinking they've made Dallas the exception. Only Austin has had that luxury, really. If anything, Big D has been made the main scapegoat for taking on all of the Texas bashing in the media.
04-09-2012, 10:55 AM
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Not to point him out, but JJG is a good example of this, as he's lived in both regions, and it shows, as his posts are possibly the least biased of anyone here.
I have said it before, JJG is the only consistently objective Poster from DFW.
Some of the things some posters who claim to have lived in Houston for years say lives me shocked.
Maybe they were from Houston Minnesota and are a bit confused. The DFW posters always seem to talk like they are speaking from some erroneous stereotype. You can tell that many of them no very little about Houston, while the rest only know things they pick up on short trips.
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