08-12-2013, 09:10 AM
Location: NE Atlanta Metro
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Trae713
And DFW is expendable for Houston's purposes. No need to ship the goods up to your fair metro area when we could build more and more distribution centers down here. Besides like the bink said, those empty warehouses create a vacuum that no other city on earth can match. Only in Dallas.
It's not that simple. There are other logistical factors (besides a seaport) that companies consider before developing a distribution center.
How centralized within the region is the city as a distribution base; railroad connections, multiple direction interstate highway access, cargo airport(s) availability, existing manufacturing base.
The above examples are what DFW has over Houston as a preferred distribution site (outside of the petrochemicals industry).
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Jack Lance
At the same price? If there was a less expensive way of doing things I have every faith that the powers that be in DFW would quickly avail themselves of those opportunities.
One thing I have learned here on CD about the attitudes of our northern MSA, is that if DFW can cut anybody else out, they will.
Merely hypothetical, Jack. Unless something catastrophic happens to the POH, DFW and Houston will have that connection for years to come.
08-12-2013, 09:54 AM
Location: ITL (Houston)
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It's not that simple. There are other logistical factors (besides a seaport) that companies consider before developing a distribution center.
I knew you were going to come in with that explanation. I guess you don't know about all the new distribution centers being built around Houston and the city already has good railroad connections. Interstate 69's completion over the next couple decades will open up Houston directly to the Midwest. Dfw will still be the better distribution hub, but Houston will make a dent in that. But then again, if location was everything, Kansas City or St Louis would be larger distribution hubs than DFW.
08-12-2013, 10:11 AM
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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Trae713
I knew you were going to come in with that explanation. I guess you don't know about all the new distribution centers being built around Houston and the city already has good railroad connections. Interstate 69's completion over the next couple decades will open up Houston directly to the Midwest. Dfw will still be the better distribution hub, but Houston will make a dent in that.
Houston will become a more attractive distribution center as cities like Beaumont , Lake Charles, San Antonio/Austin, College Station ect continue to grow as they have, and of course DFW being a customer of the Port of Houston doesn't hurt. Even the growth in the Rio Grande Valley via I-69 will help. I think the first leg of I-69 to be completed should be the southern section from Loredo/Valley to Houston where shippers can then connect to I-10 east. This of course would divert traffic from I-35 which I think is one reason Texas is so slow to fund I-69 construction. If it were completed all the way to Canada it would divert a huge amount of traffic off of I-35 bypassing Central and Northern Texas all together. Houstons position on the trade route from Latin America to the U.S. east coast is not being fully taken advantage of at this time
Funding for I-69 should be expedited, politics be darned
08-12-2013, 11:06 AM
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It would serve Houston no purpose to try to put a dent in DFW logistics. DFW is the undisputed logistic capital of its region. All major rail lines, highways, and airports run through the DFW area. DFW has two class 1 rail lines BNSF and UP. The second largest railroad network in the country BSNF rail is headquartered in Fort Worth. Tower 55 in Fort Worth is the busiest at grade railroad intersection in the country. FedEx Southwest Regional Sort Hub is also located within the Alliance Corridor. Not to mention you got Fort Worth Alliance Airport the world’s 1st 100% industrial airport. DFW did not become the 4th largest metro area in country for nothing. There is a reason why this area continues to attract major industries.
08-12-2013, 11:11 AM
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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It would serve Houston no purpose to try to put a dent in DFW logistics. DFW is the undisputed logistic capital of its region. All major rail lines, highways, and airports run through the DFW area. DFW has two class 1 rail lines BNSF and UP. The second largest railroad network in the country BSNF rail is headquartered in Fort Worth. Tower 55 in Fort Worth is the busiest at grade railroad intersection in the country. FedEx Southwest Regional Sort Hub is also located within the Alliance Corridor. Not to mention you got Fort Worth Alliance Airport the world’s 1st 100% industrial airport. DFW did not become the 4th largest metro area in country for nothing. There is a reason why this area continues to attract major industries.
No purpose? Do you know how many jobs the new distribution centers have and are creating?
just like you Dallasites to claim that creating new jobs serves no purpose. I forgot that for something to have purpose in DFW it had to be over the top like that excessive bridge to nowhere.
08-12-2013, 11:24 AM
Location: Dallas
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No purpose? Do you know how many jobs the new distribution centers have and are creating?
You mean this?
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08-12-2013, 11:47 AM
Location: Austin/Houston
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Why?
Dallas keeps doing the same types of things over and over to get laughed at.
08-12-2013, 11:57 AM
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Why?
Dallas keeps doing the same types of things over and over to get laughed at.
It’s going to be a little hard to laugh at Dallas if that development does take place around that bridge. From reading the article it looks like the development has been approved. With all due respect it looks like Dallas will be getting the last laugh. I have been impressed with the swiftness of Dallas developments and approvals. I personally think Dallas has been the most progressive city in the state of Texas since 2010.
08-12-2013, 12:02 PM
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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It would serve Houston no purpose to try to put a dent in DFW logistics. DFW is the undisputed logistic capital of its region. All major rail lines, highways, and airports run through the DFW area. DFW has two class 1 rail lines BNSF and UP. The second largest railroad network in the country BSNF rail is headquartered in Fort Worth. Tower 55 in Fort Worth is the busiest at grade railroad intersection in the country. FedEx Southwest Regional Sort Hub is also located within the Alliance Corridor. Not to mention you got Fort Worth Alliance Airport the world’s 1st 100% industrial airport. DFW did not become the 4th largest metro area in country for nothing. There is a reason why this area continues to attract major industries.
Houston? I'm talking about whats good for Texas. I-69 will be a economic boon for all Of Texas especially South and East Texas. Why are you so angered over Texas and the U.S. interstate system building a Freeway that has been proposed for decades now. This is what I mean by politics be darned. DFW is using politics to thwart any projects that do not make DFW its center. You are acting like a spoiled child.
BTW When you say all major highways run through DFW are you talking about I-10? I don't think it does run through DFW. lol, Airports? Does IAH run through DFW lol, I don't think so. And this map of "Class 1 Railroads in Texas shows that not all Class 1 lines run through DFW.
You are a bit delusional I'm afraid. Again I-69 should be funded immediately no matter how much the DFW political lobby and Ross Perot objects.
08-12-2013, 12:23 PM
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Houston? I'm talking about whats good for Texas. I-69 will be a economic boon for all Of Texas especially South and East Texas. Why are you so angered over Texas and the U.S. interstate system building a Freeway that has been proposed for decades now. This is what I mean by politics be darned. DFW is using politics to thwart any projects that do not make DFW its center. You are acting like a spoiled child.
BTW When you say all major highways run through DFW are you talking about I-10? I don't think it does run through DFW. lol, Airports? Does IAH run through DFW lol, I don't think so. And this map of "Class 1 Railroads in Texas shows that not all Class 1 lines run through DFW.
You are a bit delusional I'm afraid. Again I-69 should be funded immediately no matter how much the DFW political lobby and Ross Perot objects.
I am sure that Dallas, Fort Worth, Austin, and San Antonio would not give a ****terings about the I 69 funding. It does nothing to help their respective cities. The rest of your comments are not even worth responding too.
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People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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