Houston vs. Dallas (Austin, Fort Worth, Arlington: corruption, appointed, 2014)

[Dallaz]

Originally Posted by TexasTallest

Lolol..

Just because it has the name I m pei on it doesn't mean it is/will ever be a masterpiece. He designed many mediocre/ugly buildings too, as I pointed out. At any rate, if this city hall lasts another 30 years it will likely be the longest operating city hall building in Dallas' history. You guys have been through 6 or so already..

Mainly because they were too small. The Municipal Building on Harwood is signifcantly smaller than the current City Hall, which is over 700,000 sq ft.

[Gandhi the baby deer]

Originally Posted by Dallaz

Mainly because they were too small. The Municipal Building on Harwood is signifcantly smaller than the current City Hall, which is over 700,000 sq ft.

That building should be sold and converted over to a convention center hotel. The city government should then be housed in an old abandoned industrial building somewhere along the Stemmons Corridor.

[Gandhi the baby deer]

Originally Posted by RMFW

Do you know of a redevelopment of the property in 25 years that you're not telling us about?

What isn't appreciated Is the large plaza created when the plaza of the Dallas City Hall is combined with the one in frontgof the Dallas Convention Center. Contrasting this large plaza to the north of the Dallas Convention Center to the one built around the George Brown Convention Center in Houston, Dallas was wise not to cut off the southern boundary of downtown from thes Cedars neighborhood by constructing its Convention Center over the streets keeping traffic flowing.

[Dallaz]

Originally Posted by Gandhi the baby deer

That building should be sold and converted over to a convention center hotel. The city government should then be housed in an old abandoned industrial building somewhere along the Stemmons Corridor.

That's a horrible idea. Why would the City Hall be located along I-35??? The City Hall is always in the Downtown/Urban Core of every major city in America.

[Gandhi the baby deer]

Originally Posted by Dallaz

That's a horrible idea. Why would the City Hall be located along I-35??? The City Hall is always in the Downtown/Urban Core of every major city in America.

A city hall shouldn't be located within a monument. On the other hand, 700,000 square feet of premium space could house a fairly large convention center hotel. Reading about that whole area of downtown, the City Hall is built parallel to the convention center and positioned to fit in with the iconic Dallas library building as well. And quite a bit was spent on the surrounding park plaza. It is broken up by some through streets, but so is Dealy Plaza and it seems to work out really well.

I'm just saying, if a person cared more about the city than their political career, they wouldn't mind in the least running the city from a converted industrial or warehouse building.

[Exult.Q36]

So, Fort Worth has more billionaires than Dallas.


More information
Notable local billionaires

Alice Walton, 64, Fort Worth, $34.3 billion


H. Ross Perot Sr., 83, Dallas, $3.5 billion


Jerry Jones, 71, Dallas, $3 billion


Robert Bass, 66, Fort Worth, $2.8 billion,


David Bonderman, 71, Fort Worth, $2.7 billion


Mark Cuban, 55, Dallas, $2.6 billion


Richard Rainwater, 69, Fort Worth, $2.6 billion


Ed Bass, 69, Fort Worth, $2.1 billion


Lee Bass, 57, Fort Worth, $2.1 billion


Sid Bass, 71, Fort Worth, $1.9 billion


H. Ross Perot Jr., 55, Dallas, $1.8 billion


Ray Davis, 72, Dallas, $1.6 billion


William “Tex” Moncrief Jr., 93, Fort Worth, $1 billion

Source: Forbes

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[Gandhi the baby deer]

Originally Posted by kdogg817

So, Fort Worth has more billionaires than Dallas.


More information
Notable local billionaires

Alice Walton, 64, Fort Worth, $34.3 billion


H. Ross Perot Sr., 83, Dallas, $3.5 billion


Jerry Jones, 71, Dallas, $3 billion


Robert Bass, 66, Fort Worth, $2.8 billion,


David Bonderman, 71, Fort Worth, $2.7 billion


Mark Cuban, 55, Dallas, $2.6 billion


Richard Rainwater, 69, Fort Worth, $2.6 billion


Ed Bass, 69, Fort Worth, $2.1 billion


Lee Bass, 57, Fort Worth, $2.1 billion


Sid Bass, 71, Fort Worth, $1.9 billion


H. Ross Perot Jr., 55, Dallas, $1.8 billion


Ray Davis, 72, Dallas, $1.6 billion


William “Tex” Moncrief Jr., 93, Fort Worth, $1 billion

Source: Forbes

Star-Telegram.com - News, sports & weather for Fort Worth, TX

I believe there is a total of 25 billionaires in the North Texas region. That list there are just the notable ones.

Here is the whole list in the Dallas Morning News.

[Gandhi the baby deer]

According to WalletHub, the city of Fort Worth is the best place in the nation to find a job right now. Meanwhile, believe it or not, both Arlington and Dallas came in forth and fifth place just ahead of sixth place Austin. Houston came in tenth place.

Question? If the numbers of jobs continue to fall in Houston, will this have an effect on all that planned development expected to get under way in a year or two? I know that is absolutely the case in the North Texas region. The new planned development is based on employment figures. In the past, in order to support a population growth of between 150,000 to 160,000 new residents a year, the North Texas region had to create on average between 80,000 to 90,000 new jobs a year.

This chart only includes the Houston area, but no other area in Houston made the chart. Still, perhaps the areas outside of Houston will bring up the employment numbers significantly. And placing tenth isn't bad. I'm just talking about enough job growth to support the incredible amounts of development now planned.

And, of course, it is just one survey.

[TexasTallest]

Originally Posted by Gandhi the baby deer

According to WalletHub, the city of Fort Worth is the best place in the nation to find a job right now. Meanwhile, believe it or not, both Arlington and Dallas came in forth and fifth place just ahead of sixth place Austin. Houston came in tenth place.

Question? If the numbers of jobs continue to fall in Houston, will this have an effect on all that planned development expected to get under way in a year or two? I know that is absolutely the case in the North Texas region. The new planned development is based on employment figures. In the past, in order to support a population growth of between 150,000 to 160,000 new residents a year, the North Texas region had to create on average between 80,000 to 90,000 new jobs a year.

This chart only includes the Houston area, but no other area in Houst c on made the chart. Still, perhaps the areas outside of Houston will bring up the employment numbers significantly. And placing tenth isn't bad. I'm just talking about enough job growth to support the incredible amounts of development now planned.

And, of course, it is just one survey.

You said yourself number 10 isn't bad.. And you do realize the Houston area cannot build housing fast enough for it's growing population.. So yes, much of this "incredible amount of development" is needed. No, all of the proposed office towers won't get built this cycle (looking at you International Tower and 5 Allen Center), but there is always the next one..

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by TexasTallest

You said yourself number 10 isn't bad.. And you do realize the Houston area cannot build housing fast enough for it's growing population.. So yes, much of this "incredible amount of development" is needed. No, all of the proposed office towers won't get built this cycle (looking at you International Tower and 5 Allen Center), but there is always the next one..

The increase in the cost of Housing is what put Houston further down this list. If we are talking about shear numbers of jobs available Greater Houston beats the whole of DFW. These boosters always seem to interpret things their own way don't they