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Unread 08-14-2008, 11:04 AM
 
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Nationwide, Bush won with a 51% "mandate".

This is a pretty useful tool:

CNN.com Election 2004

 
Unread 08-14-2008, 11:09 AM
 
Location: from houstoner to bostoner to new yorker;)
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Nationwide, Bush won with a 51% "mandate".

This is a pretty useful tool:

CNN.com Election 2004
Well, there you go!
 
Unread 08-14-2008, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Houston- Clear Lake City
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haha, good assessment. Liberals are boring to hear them talk on the radio, they don't make you pump your fists all angrily in the air like conservative radio does. Right wing radio just plays off people's emotions and gets them all heated, it's such a joke...

You're right about liberal radio. *yawn*

As far as Limbaugh & Hannity go, they & their callers make me cringe sometimes.

At least Savage is entertaining to listen to, and at least somewhat in-touch with reality. I believe every word he says about his crazy town.
 
Unread 08-14-2008, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Deciding that Texas is "liberal" or "conservative" based on who they vote for isn't really entirely accurate. You have to look at WHY they vote the way they do.

Given our history of fighting for the right to be left alone, it makes sense that, given only two real choices, most folks would vote conservative - the liberals certainly aren't interested in allowing anyone that right, they're mostly about saving us from ourselves and patting us on the head and telling us not to worry our pretty little heads about it, they know best and they'll be good parents and take care of us. (Good way to lose a finger, that.)

The conservatives these days aren't much better, really, but sometimes you have to choose between two evils. Sad, but true.

My own longheld deep desire is to have the choice "None of the above" on the ballot. And if none of the above wins, everybody has to go back and find us better choices. That's much more emphatic than voting for a third party candidate who doesn't stand anything even approaching a chance of winning, because it says it like it is - there's NO ONE ON THE BALLOT WORTH VOTING FOR! I'd like to see that on every ballot, local, county, state, national. My guess is "None of the above" would only have to win once or twice before they started bringing us better candidates in the first place.
 
Unread 08-14-2008, 12:41 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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NPR, anyone?
Has anyone ever seen the SNL skit they used do a parody of NPR with Ana Gasteyer and Molly Shannon called the "Delicous Dish"? it was freakin hilarious.

Best guest was Alec Baldwin and his "schweaty balls", also when they tripped on mushrooms was pretty funny.
 
Unread 08-14-2008, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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Deciding that Texas is "liberal" or "conservative" based on who they vote for isn't really entirely accurate. You have to look at WHY they vote the way they do.

Given our history of fighting for the right to be left alone, it makes sense that, given only two real choices, most folks would vote conservative - the liberals certainly aren't interested in allowing anyone that right, they're mostly about saving us from ourselves and patting us on the head and telling us not to worry our pretty little heads about it, they know best and they'll be good parents and take care of us. (Good way to lose a finger, that.)

The conservatives these days aren't much better, really, but sometimes you have to choose between two evils. Sad, but true.

My own longheld deep desire is to have the choice "None of the above" on the ballot. And if none of the above wins, everybody has to go back and find us better choices. That's much more emphatic than voting for a third party candidate who doesn't stand anything even approaching a chance of winning, because it says it like it is - there's NO ONE ON THE BALLOT WORTH VOTING FOR! I'd like to see that on every ballot, local, county, state, national. My guess is "None of the above" would only have to win once or twice before they started bringing us better candidates in the first place.
Oh how i wish they would really start doing that
 
Unread 08-14-2008, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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Has anyone ever seen the SNL skit they used do a parody of NPR with Ana Gasteyer and Molly Shannon called the "Delicous Dish"? it was freakin hilarious.

Best guest was Alec Baldwin and his "schweaty balls", also when they tripped on mushrooms was pretty funny.
I saw the trippin on mushrooms one, it was funny!
 
Unread 08-14-2008, 03:12 PM
 
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My own longheld deep desire is to have the choice "None of the above" on the ballot. And if none of the above wins, everybody has to go back and find us better choices.
They have... are. This year the Libertarian Party of Texas has made a major push, with success, to include a Libertarian candidate on the ballot in most every district in Texas, for Texas legislature as well as many other seats. I recently read in the Texas Statesman online that a former Republican legislator has contacted some of those Lib candidates to ask them to withdraw from the race as they were endangering the seat currently held by some given Republican... the audacity of reality

Apologies to the forum moderator, I realize this is not a political forum.
 
Unread 08-14-2008, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Bush Sr./Clinton/Bush Jr./McCain/Obama are all one in the same. One party will just grow the imperial federal bureaucracy a little bit faster than the other. To be completely honest, we probably haven't had a true "conservative" in office since Coolidge. Even Reagan didn't do jack to cut the federal budget. Frankly, I don't give a damn which way Texas goes. No matter who wins, liberty is futher lost. I just wish this state would seceed before the America takes us down with it.
 
Unread 08-14-2008, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Libertarian is NOT "None of the above". Note that I said that that actual wording would send a much stronger message than voting for a third party candidate who has next to no chance of winning.

In local/county/state elections, maybe, rarely. For President, not yet.
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