09-12-2008, 01:42 PM
Location: Central Texas
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It has been my experience that the most vocal about the merits of Texas have traveled outside of Texas the least.
It's been my experience that those holding this viewpoint tend to be the ones who know the least about the people they're stating it about and where they've been. Assumption, much?
09-12-2008, 11:11 PM
Location: Pittsburgh--Home of the 6 time Super Bowl Champions!
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It has been my experience that the most vocal about the merits of Texas have traveled outside of Texas the least.
I have visited ~25/50 states, I lived in Italy for 1.5 years, I've been to Spain, France, Germany, Switzerland, England, ....
BIG assumption on your part!
09-14-2008, 07:25 AM
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I have visited ~25/50 states, I lived in Italy for 1.5 years, I've been to Spain, France, Germany, Switzerland, England, ....
BIG assumption on your part!
Well, then you know that Texas is just another place, albeit with arrogance just below Alaska...and nothing can make Texans run to their atlas to document their travels like the statement I made. Thanks.
09-14-2008, 08:07 AM
Location: Pittsburgh--Home of the 6 time Super Bowl Champions!
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It has been my experience that the most vocal about the merits of Texas have traveled outside of Texas the least.
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Heracles
Well, then you know that Texas is just another place, albeit with arrogance just below Alaska...and nothing can make Texans run to their atlas to document their travels like the statement I made. Thanks.
These were your statements! I am very vocal about the merits of Texas and I have traveled probably more than you,
AND lived in a different country for almost 2 years. So your first statement holds absolutely NO water! When you're wrong, you're wrong!
Your second statement is a matter of opinion--one which I disagree with. Texas is just another place to some people, but to others (myself included) it is a whole other unique place. A place which I hold dear in my heart. You certainly don't have to agree. As I said, it's a matter of opinion.
And me and others "running to our atlas to document our travels" are just rebuttals to your first statement to
prove you are
wrong!
09-14-2008, 08:08 AM
Location: Pittsburgh--Home of the 6 time Super Bowl Champions!
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It's been my experience that those holding this viewpoint tend to be the ones who know the least about the people they're stating it about and where they've been. Assumption, much?
Well said THL, as usual!
(Tried to give you reps, but I have to spread the wealth around before I can give it to you again!)
09-14-2008, 08:20 AM
Location: Central Texas
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Well, then you know that Texas is just another place, albeit with arrogance just below Alaska...and nothing can make Texans run to their atlas to document their travels like the statement I made. Thanks.
This would seem to mean that you deliberately troll with that statement or ones like it just to see the Texans "run to their atlas". Surely that's not what you meant?
Besides which, the responses that I heard were of people stating their own experiences in travels, not something they'd need an atlas for. At worst, they'd need to consult their passports to make sure they didn't miss any.
09-14-2008, 08:36 AM
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I might be guilty of trolling a bit. But Texans are just too easy. Look, I live in Texas, I'm not from there, I, too, have traveled widely and I just don't think Texas is terribly unique. Everywhere I go has good points and bad but all too many Texans are guilty of overlooking the bad when it is inside their border. The fact that a number of people here got their backs up over a simple observation only confirms it in my mind. If Texas is so great, it can stand a little criticism, eh?
09-14-2008, 10:06 AM
Location: Somewhere in Texas
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I saw a very off-color tee shirt depicting the state of CA shape and the state of TX shape which said, "Let's mess with Texas." It's very uncouth and anyone who would wear it is, in my estimation, uncouth as well.
09-14-2008, 01:21 PM
Location: Texas
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Well, Texas aint for everyone. If you don't like it, may I ask why you live here? Unless you are in the military or incarcerated (which you aint cuz you wouldnt have internet access in prison), you are ot held here involuntarily, right?
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I might be guilty of trolling a bit. But Texans are just too easy. Look, I live in Texas, I'm not from there, I, too, have traveled widely and I just don't think Texas is terribly unique. Everywhere I go has good points and bad but all too many Texans are guilty of overlooking the bad when it is inside their border. The fact that a number of people here got their backs up over a simple observation only confirms it in my mind. If Texas is so great, it can stand a little criticism, eh?
09-14-2008, 11:53 PM
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Well, Texas aint for everyone. If you don't like it, may I ask why you live here? Unless you are in the military or incarcerated (which you aint cuz you wouldnt have internet access in prison), you are to held here involuntarily, right?
I am not unhappy living in Texas, just like I was not unhappy living in lots of other places. You have to make of it what you can. Some Texans behave like the overly patriotic - meaning you completely love it and never speak ill of it, or you should get out. I will point out where Texas can improve and I'll praise Texas when deserved. Sorry, you don't own the rights to the Texas brand and it sounds like you could benefit from a critical eye in any case. Maybe you should start a Texas thread where no criticism is allowed. Then it will just be glorious big hats, ranches and wildflowers. Sigh.
So what about my bumper sticker idea?
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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