Texas is a Red state, so will you vote? (house, tax)

[WillysB]

Originally Posted by txstate

Go Big Blue too bad people cant talk amongist one another about this election, it more about race than anything, really sad.

I couldn't agree less. My vote is for the option that best affords the opportunity for smaller government. < That's a period. That you think it's more about race tells me all I need to know about you and why some can't talk about it amongst one another.

[bluescreen73]

Originally Posted by WillysB

I couldn't agree less. My vote is for the option that best affords the opportunity for smaller government. < That's a period. That you think it's more about race tells me all I need to know about you and why some can't talk about it amongst one another.

I had considered voting for McCain until I saw his blatantly fascist campaign slogan. "Country First" is one of the main tenets of fascism and I find it appalling that ANY candidate regardless of their political proclivities would say something like that. This isn't 1930s Germany & Italy. The people make the country, not the other way around.

[PanTerra]

Originally Posted by bluescreen73

I had considered voting for McCain until I saw his blatantly fascist campaign slogan. "Country First" is one of the main tenets of fascism and I find it appalling that ANY candidate regardless of their political proclivities would say something like that. This isn't 1930s Germany & Italy. The people make the country, not the other way around.

Just like Kennedy's fascist statement,"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country." So now we have a blatant fascist running against a blatant socialist.

[bluescreen73]

Originally Posted by PanTerra

Just like Kennedy's fascist statement,"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country." So now we have a blatant fascist running against a blatant socialist.

Touché. You're right, it is socialism on the left and at the very least pseudo-fascism on the right. Gridlock may be the best outcome in '08.

[WillysB]

Gridlock may be the best outcome in '08.

What ever it takes to disable large government.

[loves2read]

just think about last time 2004 in Ohio precincts that were heavily Democratic--there were often only 2 voting machines for thousands of voters--they waited up to 4 or 5 HOURS to cast a vote--people were in line after midnight waiting...
the precincts that were more Republican can more voting machines and no lines basically...
this year the secretary of state in Ohio is Democratic and while THAT won't be a scenario the Republicans can use to stall Democrats in an important state--they are going all out to put other frivolous challenges in the way of voters...
Young people especially are targeted and will face more challenges than other age groups...

[loves2read]

and frankly all people who are tying to disable large goverment are not doing this country any favors...without a rational, central government that is evenhanded as much as possible in how it assesses the gravity of problems and the needs of various groups of Americans, all we are going to do is get deeper into this hole the past 8 years have put us in...
if we had taken the money spent on the war in Iraq up to this point--we would have made America a much stronger country internally--college could be affordable, people could have decent health care, our economy would NOT be in the situation it is now ... but the blind ambition of one particular group managed to sway much of public opinon with a premise NOT based in fact...and that headstrong refusal to consider any other point of view also brought us unregulated greed on the financial front...

I have heard many times the idea that the first Christian communities were truly communistic or socialistic in intent and action since they truly held everything in common and shared based on need vs the ability to acquire...
so I don't know why so many conservative Christians are against the "share the wealth" comment...

why would any state's legislature be the best way of governing issues like immigration, foreign policy, taxation, or the Constitution--I would not trust TX alone to enforce Rowe vs Wade or aspects of the Civil Rights laws because there are too many people here who are religiously dogmatic and don't want, care, or believe that any other point of view has value...

One man--one vote--goes to the heart of the popular vote---that vote was delegated in the original Constitution to a representative in the Electoral College--(just as American is really a representative democracy) because of logistics...and as a way to balance the South vs the North vs the West--for political expediency...
guess the political expediency is still in force even if logistics does not requirethe delagating of personal voting...

[PanTerra]

Originally Posted by loves2read

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I have heard many times the idea that the first Christian communities were truly communistic or socialistic in intent and action since they truly held everything in common and shared based on need vs the ability to acquire...
so I don't know why so many conservative Christians are against the "share the wealth" comment...

There is a difference. Government is not the one sharing your wealth.

[Terri722]

Originally Posted by bluescreen73

i'll be voting even though i think the electoral college is completely passe in the electronic age. This isn't 1787 when information took weeks to disseminate. Time for the popular vote to decide who becomes president.

amen....

[edubya]

Originally Posted by loves2read

I have heard many times the idea that the first Christian communities were truly communistic or socialistic in intent and action since they truly held everything in common and shared based on need vs the ability to acquire...
so I don't know why so many conservative Christians are against the "share the wealth" comment...

The spirit of "sharing the wealth" remains in many Christian churches today, though it usually takes the form of aiding people in need rather than putting all assets in one big pot. For instance, our church supported one of our struggling families for several months until the father finally found work again.

Also, those early Christian communities did not put their money in the hands of some government; they shared it amongst themselves, other Christians that they obviously trusted.

On a related note, don't forget that conservatives as a group are generally more charitable (both in dollars and time) than liberals (RealClearPolitics - Articles - Conservatives More Liberal Givers). The concept of sharing wealth is not lost on right-wing voters. The concept of trusting a bloated government to do it for them most certainly is.