Racist baylor students! (Dallas, Austin, Garland: home, school district, colleges)

[TexasReb]

Originally Posted by uw21

Unfortunately I actually lived the in south (Texas and some other southern states) for a number of years so I got to see it for myself. Also I looked real good at the voting results so I know what I am talking about. What are trying to tell me the results were wrong?

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Oh gawd. I don't whether to belly-laugh or barf over this post (as well as the earlier one by the same poster) and its self-righteous, holier-than-than Texas/South bashing.

And as to the seeming premise that failure to support Obama must be tantamount to some form of racism? Well, there is just really no way to engage in intelligent discussion with such a mindset. That honest differences on ideology and issues may have been the determining factor just doesn't seem to enter the question. Strangely enough though, while this ilk piously lectures others on getting past race, it seems to be their own sole-obscession.

Unfortunately, as it is, I only have a few free minutes to reply, so will have to be content for the moment (and probably until this weekend) to just mention a few things you and your all-knowing uncle may be unaware of:

The most racist part of the country? Sure, we had our problems and still do. BUT...we don't play the hypocrites about it. This in contrast to many in certain "enlightened" areas of the country who lecture others while ignoring their own dirt.

Anyway, as it is, polls on the subject have shown it to be Southern whites and blacks (defined for polling purposes as the 11 Old Confederate States plus Kentucky and Oklahoma) who are most optomistic on race-relations. And speaking of Dr. King? When the Civil Rights movement entered the North he once said something to the effect of: "If you want to teach a white Southerner to hate, just send him to Chicago."

On the flip side, lets take a quick past and present look at this place you smugly present as a beacon of racial tolerance and personal enlightenment.

Segregated Seattle

For most of its history Seattle was a segregated city, as committed to white supremacy as any location in America. People of color were excluded from most jobs, most neighborhoods and schools, and many stores, restaurants, hotels, and other commercial establishments, even hospitals. As in other western states, the system of severe racial discrimination in Seattle targeted not just African Americans but also Native Americans, Asian Americans, Pacific Islanders, people of Mexican ancestry, and also, at times, Jews

(Hmmmmm...the list above kinda makes us down here look like pikers when it came to discrimination, reckon?).

And of course, in another realm:

The Daily Weekly - Racism, Confirmed - Seattle Weekly

The Seattle Times: Opinion: Stain of racism still haunts Seattle neighborhoods

The language of segregation still haunts Seattle. It lurks in the property deeds of thousands of homeowners living in neighborhoods outside of the Central and International districts. Many Queen Anne residents, for instance, have this clause in their deeds: "No person or persons of Asiatic, African or Negro blood, lineage, or extraction shall be permitted to occupy a portion of said property ... "

And if I recall correctly, the Northwestern states are a bastion of the so-called skinheads, correct?

Anyway, again, I don't have time today to address these posts point by point. That will have to wait. Meanwhile, just wanted to leave a few things to mull over while you and your like-minded friends and family feel superior to us backward Texas rednecks. And a simple reminder that those who live in glass houses...?

[Spade]

Originally Posted by uw21

Also on a side note my cousin who lives in Texas, told me the morning after the election a middle age woman working at Kroger was obviously so upset over the election that she started yelling I hate n-word and that she couldn't believe that this country would elect a n-word. To say it at your home is one thing, but to say on the job is another thing. You stay classy Texas

You need to start realizing that one person does not speak for the entirety of Texas, the south, or America. You also need to realize that there is a strong and proud connection with blacks and whites in rural Texas that goes back for decades and the presence of blacks in these cities is so strong that they would make black Seattlites jealous to have it. Blacks number 3 million strong in Texas so I think they'll be fine.

[TexasReb]

Originally Posted by Spade

You also need to realize that there is a strong and proud connection with blacks and whites in rural Texas that goes back for decades and the presence of blacks in these cities is so strong that they would make black Seattlites jealous to have it. Blacks number 3 million strong in Texas so I think they'll be fine.

Originally Posted by Houston3

It's OK TexasReb, I've been to the state of Washington and they have their share of racist rednecks there too. A matter of fact I'd bet you would find most racist in the north.

Exactly right, Spade and Houston.

I know I have related this true story before, but I am going to "copy/paste" and post it again:

Back in the 60's, was when that expression "soul food" first gained some popularity in the American vernacular. With most of the media and TV concerns being in the NE and California, it was associated with blacks in popular (i.e. non-Southern) mindset. The thing was, it confused many of us Southern whites because WE had eaten this great crusine described as "soul" all our lives! LOL

Well, there was (and this is a true story, remember) there was some huge plant up in Michigan (maybe they made cars) which employed so many folks they had a company cafeteria. There were all races/ethnic groups represented, including many blacks and whites originally from the South (particularly from Alabama, Tennessee and Texas).

Anyway, because of this natural diversity, there were special "food days" set aside for the respective cultures. For instance, there would be a "Greek Day" or "Italian Day" featuring the specialized foods.

Ok. Well, a group of Southern whites went to the cafeteria managment and asked about having a "Southern Day", which would feature certain good stuff like fried chicken, catfish, black-eyed peas, greens, okra and grits and cornbread! (damn, makes me hungry just to think about it! LOL)

Anyway, it was agreed to do so, and the day was posted on the company bulletin board. Problem is though, it happened to fall on the Dr. Martin Luthur King holiday!

This was just pure happenstance. But, the way it was translated to many northerners was that Southern folks from Alabama, Texas, Tennessee, etc., wanted to have a menu that, on MLK Day, would include such things as fried chicken and watermelon!

Oh man! Many northerners got "offended" and thought this was an intended insult...since none of them had any experience with the South. Their whole whole way of thinking was that what they regarded as "soul food" was to be exclusively associated with a so-called "negative stereotype" of blacks, with the same mindset being that the Southern whites were making fun of them. Maybe they even expected a minstrel show...

As it turned out, not surprisingly at all, it was a group of Southern blacks who smoothed things over. They explained to management that "hey, down where we come from, ALL of us homefolk, black AND white eat this food. There is nothing racist about it."

Homefolk. I love it...

Too, while I realize personal experiences are not to be confused with fact, I am going to do it anyway...

My first "real job" was at a "bait and beer house" when I was 14 years old (typical Texas, dont ya know! LOL)...and there were lots of lazy summer days when catfishermen, black and white, would gather outside the place and drink beer and just talk. As a kid, I LOVED to listen in on that adult conversation (knowing better than to interupt!). These men shared fishing and hunting secrets, how to best fry fish, the virtues of stink bait, all that good stuff..and more.

In a way that it almost impossible to translate to a northerner (or from Seattle), it was black and white Dixie folk sitting together, enjoying each others company, and having a good time...even if all went back home to their own different parts of town later...

I guess that is somewhat of an example of what is meant by that Texas/Southern whites and blacks share a bond that is much stronger than either share with their northern/far western counterparts.

I can't really explain it, but it is real. And, yes, as Spade alluded to, something that those from certain other parts of the country lack. And would be jealous of...did they really, truly, understand it!

[albion]

I saw the riot on sky tv In the UK ( fox sister channel ) I did'nt see any black women there.
Have a look @ the sky report from amarillo on how some Texan's were taking Obama's win. Not very well.

[Tank1906]

Buring Obama pictures? Was this Lebenon or something? Oh...Waco, Texas. Close enough

[crbcrbrgv]

Originally Posted by uw21

This is from the same state that brought us Bush and the James Byrd incident you do remember that don't you. I guess hanging a noose in response to the Obama victory is okay also. Here in Seattle many of us weren't happy about Bush winning in 2000 or 2004, but we didn't go and burn his pictures. That is because unlike Texas we don't lack class, what happened to being gracious in defeat.

I am a young white woman that voted for Obama. The whites that voted for Obama were in states in the Northeast, some in the midwest, and northwestern states. From what I recall most of the southern states (except for Florida and possibly North Carolina- which is probably due to many northeastern transplants living there) didn't vote for Obama. I am not saying it was all about race. But lets be realistic the South is the most racist part of the country. Most southern whites I have met (90%) are very racist, they think it is okay to use the n-word to refer to blacks when they are around me. I have to let them know not to use that term around me.

Southern whites make all of us look bad with their racist and backwards ways. My uncle went to a university in the south and said the southern whites were clapping and celebrating in the streets when Martin Luther King was killed and he was digusted. What about those people in TN (the south) who were plotting to kill Obama. He said southern whites are the most backwards, uneducated, and racist out of all whites in this country.

If I was a black person living in the south, especially outside of the major cities I would be in fear of the potential backlash from this Obama victory. My uncle said Tuesday it is going to be a lot of upset southern whites and will take their anger out on the blacks.

And if I were a black person living by you, your blanket statements, gross generalizations and overt stereotyping would scare me to death.

[loves2read]

racism knows no geological boundary because it is develops from the mind and heart--anyone can be a racist in any country or state--north or south...
that being said--there are racists in TX and in other states
I remember comments from the boss at the company I worked for made when MLK was killed--he was a racist sure enough...
but my dad who was his age wasn't...

my daughter is married to guy from north MS--has not lived there full=time since he left for college but his family is there...his mom and her two sisters came to visit them in FL--south of Sarasota--a month ago...driving though the area showing them the sites--one thing they saw were numerous houses with Obama signs in front yards--
my daughter heard her MIL says "no way we are going to vote for an N-word"
she told me she had to really bite her tongue to keep from saying something...
they are really nice people in many ways but...
James Byrd's death years ago was a symptom of the racial hatred some people still feel--but many people in today's society do not feel that way...
my husband and I both voted for Obama --our son and his wife--our daughter (her husband refuses to vote because he does not like any political party)...
I think what people miss about Obama being elected is the fact that blacks account for fewer than 14% of Americans--Obama had more than Blacks voting for him--so many were younger/first-time voters who see him as a chance for change -- a Kennedy figure for their generation--
my husband and I are just hoping he can undo the damage George Bush has inflicted on the govt and our liberties--Bush/Chaney were a dangerous duo...people have no real idea of how bad they and their policies are to America ...

[jluke65780]

Originally Posted by Tank1906

Buring Obama pictures? Was this Lebenon or something? Oh...Waco, Texas. Close enough

Baylor University......Most likely those kids weren't even from Texas.

[Canine*Castle]

Originally Posted by jluke65780

Baylor University......Most likely those kids weren't even from Texas.

I was wondering that myself and did a search, but I couldn't find out any information about who they were.

It's sad that over the past several years, bad things have happened at Baylor or by Baylor students. My daughter is an BU alumni (1995) and when she attended, these things just didn't happen. If they did, they weren't publicized.

[TXTwizter]

Originally Posted by Tank1906

Buring Obama pictures? Was this Lebenon or something? Oh...Waco, Texas. Close enough

Excuse me?? Have you even been here?? Baylor just happens to be a very conservative college in an increasingly liberal city. Sure Waco isn't as liberal as Austin, but it also isnt as conservative as most would like to think it is.
I bet there were instances like the one at Baylor at several colleges across the country, Baylor just happens to be one of the, if not the most, conservative of them.....thats why the LIBERAL media jumped all over it. Plus having Bush as our neighbor doesn't help matters any.

And if I recall correctly, were they burning pics of Bush in Lebanon when he was elected/re-elected???

Your comment is lame at best!